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The Roe Countdown

When will Roe v Wade be overturned

  • Before 31 December 2020

    Votes: 20 18.3%

  • Before 31 December 2022

    Votes: 27 24.8%

  • Before 31 December 2024

    Votes: 9 8.3%

  • SCOTUS will not pick a case up

    Votes: 16 14.7%

  • SCOTUS will pick it up and decline to overturn

    Votes: 37 33.9%
  • Total voters
    109
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Segnosaur said:
While its good that a notable republican donor is stepping up, the big question is: why was he a republican donor in the first place?



The republican party is known for its ties to christian evangelicalism. He should have known years ago that if the party he has financially supported for years had the opportunity, that there was a chance that a ban on abortions would be a desired outcome for many republican politicians.



Maybe he should have supported the "Leopards eating people's faces" party instead.
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Rich guys like tax cuts.
 
Well, it looks like a few companies might have the right idea:

From: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-48457401
Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney says Georgia's controversial new anti-abortion law would make it "difficult" for the company to keep filming there.
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Earlier this week, Netflix said it would "rethink" its operations there with chief content officer Ted Sarandos explaining: "We have many women working on productions in Georgia, whose rights, along with millions of others, will be severely restricted by this law"
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Comedy actress and writer Kristen Wiig also confirmed to CNN that her new comedy had pulled out of filming in the state while the executive producers of a new Amazon show The Power said it was no longer scouting for filming locations in Georgia because of the controversial bill.

Given the way that republicans have manage to stack the judiciary, I think economic pressure may be the best way to go. A lot of movies and TV shows are filmed in Georgia (thanks in part to government subsidies), but if production companies (and other businesses) start leaving the state, it may cause them to rethink their stance.

The same thing sort of happened in North Carolina... the state brought in a law regarding trans people and their use of the bathroom, which was widely criticized. Several businesses threatened to either pull out of the state, or stop planned expansion plans. As a result the state backed off its initial plans. (They still have some problems with their laws, but economic pressure did force them to back off the worst of their plans.)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...carolina-bathroom-bill-transgender/729791002/
 
The only way to stop this communist conspiracy of pro-choice activism is to make all companies state-owned and make them to their business in Georgia.
 
Segnosaur said:
Well, it looks like a few companies might have the right idea:

From: https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-48457401
Bob Iger, the CEO of Disney says Georgia's controversial new anti-abortion law would make it "difficult" for the company to keep filming there.
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Earlier this week, Netflix said it would "rethink" its operations there with chief content officer Ted Sarandos explaining: "We have many women working on productions in Georgia, whose rights, along with millions of others, will be severely restricted by this law"
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Comedy actress and writer Kristen Wiig also confirmed to CNN that her new comedy had pulled out of filming in the state while the executive producers of a new Amazon show The Power said it was no longer scouting for filming locations in Georgia because of the controversial bill.

Given the way that republicans have manage to stack the judiciary, I think economic pressure may be the best way to go. A lot of movies and TV shows are filmed in Georgia (thanks in part to government subsidies), but if production companies (and other businesses) start leaving the state, it may cause them to rethink their stance.

The same thing sort of happened in North Carolina... the state brought in a law regarding trans people and their use of the bathroom, which was widely criticized. Several businesses threatened to either pull out of the state, or stop planned expansion plans. As a result the state backed off its initial plans. (They still have some problems with their laws, but economic pressure did force them to back off the worst of their plans.)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...carolina-bathroom-bill-transgender/729791002/
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I predict that there will be a 'religious freedom' law suit of some sort
 
Segnosaur said:
Given the way that republicans have manage to stack the judiciary, I think economic pressure may be the best way to go.
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I'd be the exact opposite and say this is one area economic pressure won't ever work and will actually harden the antis stance.
 
The Atheist said:
Given the way that republicans have manage to stack the judiciary, I think economic pressure may be the best way to go.
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I'd be the exact opposite and say this is one area economic pressure won't ever work and will actually harden the antis stance.
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It worked in North Carolina. Despite the false premise that the 'Trans ban' was to "protect the children from molesters hiding in the bathrooms", it didn't take them long to say "Ok, screw the children... we want our money".
 
Segnosaur said:
It worked in North Carolina. Despite the false premise that the 'Trans ban' was to "protect the children from molesters hiding in the bathrooms", it didn't take them long to say "Ok, screw the children... we want our money".
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Pathetic analogy. Trans rights are so far from abortion rights the idea is laughable.

Economy will never affect attitudes to abortion.
 
The Atheist said:
Pathetic analogy. Trans rights are so far from abortion rights the idea is laughable.
Economy will never affect attitudes to abortion.
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It doesn't have to affect the attitudes of hardcore anti-abortionists.

It only has to affect the people who only pretend to be anti-abortion, but are using the issue to either score cheap political points with the more feeble-minded evangelicals, or to further their bigotry. If the economy starts to go south, all those republicans who claim to be godly (but are anything but) will see their chances of re-election go down the tubes. That's going to make a few of them change their stance.
 
The Atheist said:
Is that a lesson in how to look like a complete idiot?

The source is irrelevant - the points stated are correct.

Rhode Island
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The source matters. You, the foreigner, are in the minority in thinking Roe v Wade will be overturned (it won't). It's because you're getting your information from bias sources and you just flat out don't understand US politics.
 
Baylor said:
The source matters. You, the foreigner, are in the minority in thinking Roe v Wade will be overturned (it won't). It's because you're getting your information from bias sources and you just flat out don't understand US politics.
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You are completely full of it.

I have not stated I think Roe will be overturned. Your "argument" that the Republican states aren't trying to overturn it is nonsense in view of the states who are trying to ban abortion right now.

As to bias[ed] sources, my apologies - I didn't realise Whitehouse.gov and Mike Pence were biased.

Mike Pence said:
But life is winning in America ultimately because of all of you and the people that you represent all across this country. It is — as President Trump said well, it is a movement born out of love. In these divided times in the life of our nation, I couldn’t be more proud of the deep compassion of the pro-life movement and the continued commitment to be there to love them both.

I mean, for all the progress since 1973, the resilience of this movement proceeding out of the heart of a compassionate nation, I just know in my heart of hearts that this will be the generation that restores life in America.
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bolding mine

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing...-anthony-list-life-issues-institute-luncheon/

You're right - I don't understand US politics; I absurdly thought the Vice President and President held positions of power.
 
The Atheist said:
You are completely full of it.

I have not stated I think Roe will be overturned.
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Uh, right here.
The Atheist said:
When does Roe v Wade get thrown out? With a SCOTUS now built on solidly anti-abortion conservatives, I can see a 5-4 vote devolving legislation to states happening in the very near future.

I reckon the Red Team will be looking for a judgement before the 2020 election, so my pick is within one year.
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The Atheist said:
Your "argument" that the Republican states aren't trying to overturn it is nonsense in view of the states who are trying to ban abortion right now.
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It's more of a flex on federal supremacy. This is just US style political jockeying. There's more to it than what you read in Huffington Post headlines.
The Atheist said:
As to bias[ed] sources, my apologies - I didn't realise Whitehouse.gov and Mike Pence were biased.
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You didn't?!?! :eye-poppi

All of the sudden you believe politicians? Wow. You are gullible
 
Alabama Governor Kay Ivey said the new law might be “unenforceable” due to Roe v Wade – the landmark Supreme Court decision that legalised abortion nationwide in 1973 – but said the new law was passed with the aim of challenging that decision.
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Interesting news on Roe as the Supreme Court declines to hear Alabama's challenge to its uber-restrictive proposals being banned by lower courts. https://www.reuters.com/article/usa...-to-revive-abortion-restriction-idUSKCN1TT22D

In the ruling comes a chilling note from Justice Thomas, that will no doubt breathe further life into Red State attempts to outlaw abortion:

The notion that anything in the Constitution prevents states from passing laws prohibiting the dismembering of a living child is implausible.
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