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kookbreaker said:
Godwin is not applicable when youa re discussing genuine Nazis or Neo Nazis. You would realize this if you had actually bothered to read and understand what you toss out.
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SpitfireIX researched the relation between the two Chertoffs.

His conclusion:

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According to a genealogy researcher hired by the owner of the web site, all the Minsk Chertoffs (plus variant spellings) are related. But there are about a half-dozen branches of the family tracing back to Minsk around 1800. So Ben and Michael's great-great grandfathers might have been brothers. Or they might have been first or even second cousins. So Ben and Michael are, at the closest, fourth cousins, and could well be fifth or sixth cousins.
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This thread is an excellent justification for my decision to put Jerome on ignore. I see only little bits of his nonsensical statements trying to poke through when others quote him. More than too much for me!
 
Firestone said:
SpitfireIX researched the relation between the two Chertoffs.

His conclusion:

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i saw that website too, the Minsk Chertoffs are actual Chertovs, and michael's grandfather came from russia (not sure if belarus would constitute "russia") and i didnt see anything to indicate either family had recently changed the spelling of their name
 
The use of a double f for a teminal "veh" in transliterating Slavic names from the Cyrillic alphabet seems to have been fairly common. For example, if you look up the Wikipedia entry for Count Ignatieff, the fellow who tried to assassinate Harry Flashman at Balmoral in 1856, it turns out that his full name was Николай Павлович Игнатьев, or Nikolai Pavlovich Ignatiev and that some of his descendants, like Michael Ignatieff, use the "Ignatieff" spelling.

"Chertov" and "Chertoff" are not unlikely to be differing transliterations of the same name.

If you're gonna play these name games, one could plausibly claim that I and the late Frank DeMartini of the WTC could be distant cousins, since the spelling is the same (I put a space between "De" and "Martini") and the name is not a common one in the USA.
 
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Heck, by that logic, it's like saying everyone with the last name "Smith" is related to every other person with the last name "Smith". And while I'm aware that "Chertoff" is a much less common name than "Smith" (which is, last I heard, the most common last name in the English language, although I believe Jones might give it a run for its money), the logic is the same. It's not impossible to posit that Ben and Michael Chertoff are no relation at all; at the same time, it's not impossible to posit that they might be close cousins or even brothers separated at birth. The only way to get a definitive answer is to have them both undergo DNA testing to see how many, if any, chromosomes they share at the genetic level. So, if there's a twoofer or two out there willing to pay for it, I say we get them each to submit a DNA sample and settle this once and for all. Maybe then the twoofers will shut up about it.
 
ktesibios said:
The use of a double f for a teminal "veh" in transliterating Slavic names from the Cyrillic alphabet seems to have been fairly common. For example, if you look up the Wikipedia entry for Count Ignatieff, the fellow who tried to assassinate Harry Flashman at Balmoral in 1856, it turns out that his full name was Николай Павлович Игнатьев, or Nikolai Pavlovich Ignatiev and that some of his descendants, like Michael Ignatieff, use the "Ignatieff" spelling.

"Chertov" and "Chertoff" are not unlikely to be differing transliterations of the same name.

If you're gonna play these name games, one could plausibly claim that I and the late Frank DeMartini of the WTC could be distant cousins, since the spelling is the same (I put a space between "De" and "Martini") and the name is not a common one in the USA.
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Igantieff. One of the two men who really,really, gave nightmares to Flashy.
The other was John Wesley Hardin, perhaps the deadliest of all the Western Gunfighters, and would today be classfied as a pychopathetic killer. Harry was lucky,very few people got on the wrong side of Wes Hardin and lived to tell about it.
I eternally regret that Fraser died before he had a chance to record Harry's Civil War exploits..where he fought on both sides,,and further chronicles of his exploits in the Old West,beyond those in Flashy and the Redskin.
 
OP: from the article: "PAUL COOPER (Joseph Culp)"
I'm confused by this. Was this guy who's "researching" change his name from Joseph Culp to Paul Cooper? That just seems ODD. very ODD.
 
Sabrina said:
I say we get them each to submit a DNA sample and settle this once and for all. Maybe then the twoofers will shut up about it.
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Oh please. Like facts would stop them. They would claim the DNA test was compromised by the NWO.
 
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