The Nautilus case

I can't imagine there will be much more to add, once the high court announces the verdict. As the case has been decided in the county and high courts, an appeal to the supreme court would require permission from the Appeals Permission Board, and on the face of it I can't imagine what would cause them to approve it.

As it's only the sentence that has been appealed, we already know that Peter Madsen will be going away for a very long time (by Danish standards, anyway), and if the case of Peter Lundin is anything to go by, only the tabloids will take a remote interest in the future happenings around him.
 
Which I why I don't bother with tabloids in the first place.

It's polishing my own halo perhaps, but I haven't read Ekstra Bladet or been to their website for well over 3 years now.
 
I think it's important to know what the majority of the population read and watch. And in the case of guys like Peter Madsen and Peter Lundin, there are actually aspects of their personalities and behaviour that aren't really covered by serious newsmedia, all the sloppy details that make them what they are. There are even aspects of the penal system in Denmark that you also wouldn't know about if you read only Information or Weekendavisen. They may tell you every little detail about people like Milena Penkowa, but the details in cases like that are of little concern to the people who read the tabloids. They have nothing to do with that world.
People of a certain class don't really need to know about those details in the cases of Peter Madsen and Peter Lundin. And, unfortunately, people of the lower classes tend to revel in them and lose sight of the bigger picture. There's a reason why ordinary people love to read about outlaw bikers, which is the reason why tabloids like Ekstra Bladet are full of stories about them - and often behind pay walls because people are so eager to read about them.
The current gang shoot outs (in peaceful Denmark) take place at Nørrebro, not Gentofte ...
 
Just to set the record straight, I'm currently living in Vollsmose and working a lower class job that is under a beginning threat of automation. I don't read either Information or Weekendavision, I get my news from Jyllands-Posten and DR. My decision not to read Ekstra Bladet has nothing to do with class snobbery, it's a decision based on some of their editiorial decisions over the years, which eventually culminated in my decision to boycott them.
 
You misunderstand me if you think that what I described was class snobbery. For instance, I don't see my colleagues reading B.T. or Ekstra Bladet, not because they are snobs, but because they just aren't interested in the things they write about. (In the teachers' lounge we have Politiken, Berlingske and Information.)

Recently, I have been pretty disappointed with the Danish media in general. They very soon picked up the stories in the New York Times about alleged microwave weapons in Cuba and one week later when NBC News claimed that Russia was behind the attacks, but when the Washington Post interviewed actual scientists about the validity of the microwave idea, it wasn't mentioned in the Danish papers at all (= I haven't found it anywhere).

And this is how DR treated it: Forskere mistænker mikrobølgevåben i sagen om mystiske hjerneskader hos diplomater i Cuba (Sep. 3, 2018) They didn't mention it one week later when the WP debunked the story.
Ingeniøren is the only one that has been consistently reliable in this context: Forskere graver i lydangreb på amerikanske diplomater (April 23, 2018) Not because they are interested in Cuba-U.S relations, but because they are interested in the technological implications of the different ideas that have been presented! :)

And it's probably not even a question of bias when DR doesn't follow up on the NYT story. It's probably a lack of interest: 'It's Cuba. Who really cares what's going on?!'
In the USA, the Miami Herald has presented news about this case that you wouldn't find in other newspapers. Not because they are biased in favour of Cuba in Miami. On the contrary. But they are interested enough in the theme to do a little investigative journalism so they discover things that other newspapers just don't care enough about. Reporting what Tillerson or Pompeo claims seems to be what journalism amounts to in most cases.
 
Nu kommer TV-serien om mordet på Kim Wall – men en af sagens centrale personer er slet ikke med (Berlingske, Oct. 7, 2019)
‘Now the TV series about the murder of Kim Wall will be produced – but one of the central characters of the case does not appear in it at all.’

The series focuses on the investigation of the crime. That Peter Madsen does not appear in the series, i.e. that no actor playing Peter Madsen appears, is in accordance with the wishes of Kim Wall's parents.

Earlier this year, an inmate, apparently another psychopath, attempted to stab Peter Madsen but failed:
Retssag om overfald på Peter Madsen udsat: Tvivl om straf til 28-årig (Ekstra Bladet, Sep. 2, 2019)
 
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If they can manage to make a good drama without casting someone as him, I think that would certainly be for the best.
 
I think so too. One problem with (usually serial) killer movies is that they tend to make the perpetrators much more interesting, intelligent (and sometimes even likable) than they are in real life. They avoid that problem with this approach to the story.
But a problem that I do see with their approach is that it was so very obvious from the very beginning who killed Kim Wall, so I can't imagine how they will make the investigation interesting. They didn't have to look beyond the first suspect, who immediately began to contradict himself. What they needed to do was to find the body in order to prove that it was not an accident as he claimed, so it will probably be a very unconventional production.
And since it happened in the summertime, it will be more difficult than usual to turn it into Nordic noir ...
 
The Danish actor Søren Malling (Wikipedia) will be playing the leader of the investigation, but at first he didn't want the job:

When they told Søren Malling in more detail about The Investigation, he said yes to the role.
"They told me that it wasn't about 'him' at all. Or, yes, it was, but he doesn't appear in the series. And the girl doesn't appear as a dismembered corpse. It is exclusively about the homicide department of the Copenhagen police, and about how the leader of the department sacrifices six months of his life on the case," says Søren Malling.
Søren Malling spiller drabschef i TV2's Kim Wall-serie: 'Derfor sagde jeg først nej' (B.T., Oct. 31, 2019)
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Like in so many of these cases, somebody married the convicted murderer, a Russian woman living in Finnland, so I guess there aren't an awful lot of conjugal visits:

"Jeg elsker og respekterer min mand. Jeg er stolt af ham og 49 år af hans både menneskelige og professionelle liv - med undtagelse af én dag som var og altid vil være en tragedie".
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"At kende ham giver mig en eksklusiv ret til at kunne sige, at jeg er heldig for at være sammen med den smukkeste, klogeste, mest talentfulde, dedikerede og empatiske person og mand overhovedet".
"Min mand er et af to ofre for hans forbrydelse, og at forblive i live var straf i sig selv for ham, ikke en belønning, ikke held "
Nu tager Peter Madsens nye kone ham i forsvar (SE og Hør, Jan. 13, 2020)
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My translation:
"I love and respect my husband. I am proud of him and 49 years of his both human and professional life - except for one day, which was and will always remain a tragedy."
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"To know him gives me an exclusive right to say that I am lucky to bee with the most beautiful, the wisest, the most talented, dedicated and empathic person and man that exists."
"My husband is one of two victims of his crime, and to stay alive was punishment enough for him, not a reward, not luck."
Now Peter Madsen's New Wife defends him
 
dann said:
Like in so many of these cases, somebody married the convicted murderer, a Russian woman living in Finnland, so I guess there aren't an awful lot of conjugal visits:




My translation:
"I love and respect my husband. I am proud of him and 49 years of his both human and professional life - except for one day, which was and will always remain a tragedy."
(...)
"To know him gives me an exclusive right to say that I am lucky to bee with the most beautiful, the wisest, the most talented, dedicated and empathic person and man that exists."
"My husband is one of two victims of his crime, and to stay alive was punishment enough for him, not a reward, not luck."
Now Peter Madsen's New Wife defends him
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She can **** right off together (or apart) with her husband. Empathic? Yeah, just no. He turned out to be a sociopathic monster.
 
dann said:
Like in so many of these cases, somebody married the convicted murderer, a Russian woman living in Finnland, so I guess there aren't an awful lot of conjugal visits:




My translation:
"I love and respect my husband. I am proud of him and 49 years of his both human and professional life - except for one day, which was and will always remain a tragedy."
(...)
"To know him gives me an exclusive right to say that I am lucky to bee with the most beautiful, the wisest, the most talented, dedicated and empathic person and man that exists."
"My husband is one of two victims of his crime, and to stay alive was punishment enough for him, not a reward, not luck."
Now Peter Madsen's New Wife defends him
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Seriously, what the hell is wrong with people like this woman? I don't have any sympathy for them. I understand that they're probably the way they are due to some psychological damage or another, but it's just too much for me to excuse, even on those grounds. Using those adjectives to describe this man is an affront to everyone connected with his victim. What a heartless, confused lunatic.

I agree with erlando, she can **** right off.
 
Probably a lunatic rather than heartless, I think, but I don't know.
Most articles about this are in Danish or Swedish, but I found two in English:
Piece killer Peter Madsen: submarine captain marries Russian activist in prison – news abroad (EN24, Jan. 13, 2020) With photo.
Dismembered journalist inventor married a Russian-born (Hand of Moscow, Jan. 13, 2020) Also with photo. Language pretty weird, not just the title.

ETA: More photos, text in Danish: Morderen Peter Madsen er blevet gift i fængslet med den russiske kunstner og aktivist Jenny Curpen (Document, Jan. 12, 2020)
 
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isissxn said:
Seriously, what the hell is wrong with people like this woman? I don't have any sympathy for them. I understand that they're probably the way they are due to some psychological damage or another, but it's just too much for me to excuse, even on those grounds. Using those adjectives to describe this man is an affront to everyone connected with his victim. What a heartless, confused lunatic.

I agree with erlando, she can **** right off.
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As noted by dann this is far from uncommon. The desire to marry or otherwise form a romantic relationship with someone convicted of a heinous crime must be a part of more than a few people’s brains. I suspect it is somehow a distortion of a part of normal emotions.

I guess it could relate to the “celebrity” status of the convict, or the ability of many sociopaths to present themselves as a victim. Also one can gain a spouse without any of the awkward aspects of living with them.
 
There seem to be many women who are attracted to men prisoners. I read the letters received by Chris Watts when they released that data dump a while back and I was amazed at how many women... and men ... that wrote to him. They all wanted him to write back. Many were religious and many stated they had never written to a prisoner before. It would be interesting to study them from a psychiatric point of view.
 
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