The Gadhafi speech ....
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Cleon
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In Arabic context, you don't have to be a martyr for anything or anyone. He's just saying he wants to go down fighting.
Which doesn't bode well for the people of Libya.
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He's like a travel poster for Lybia: Come for the human rights violations, stay for the crazy!
He sure knows how to bring it.
He sure knows how to bring it.
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I'm kind of hoping for a Ceaucescu moment, personally.
Rolfe.
Rolfe.
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I watched a lot of that speech, it had the sort of same un-hinged appearance. But, this guy is a thug and I don't think that he is under any apprehension about using violence. I don't think he cares if they love him (clearly, Ceaucescu bought into his own myth making), just so long as they fear him.
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I'm young, and not really familiar with the Romanian dictator, but I do remember his wife being the more vocal of the two -at least in the end. Am I missing something here?
ETA - Unless you meant the replaying of his execution video on state television...?
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Cleon
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I think Rolfe's referring to the fact that within a very short amount of time after giving his last speech, Ceausescu & his wife were "tried" and summarily executed.
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His wife was more vocal as they were lining them up to be shot. The moment Rolfe is referring to occured a couple of days before. Ceaucescu was on the balcony of his gawd-awful palace of the people in Bucharest addressing a forced crowd...i.e. people who'd been bussed in to cheer the leader. He was giving another one of his usual slightly unhinged addresses about the beauties of his socialist regime and how evil the rioters in other parts of the country were. As he was speaking, cat calls started to be heard in the back of the crowd and rose through the crowd until everyone was booing and chanting "death to Ceaucescu". The look on his face as he realized that he'd lost the crowd and that they were coming after him was priceless.
Sad to say, however, I think every real dictator since then, having seen that footage, will go for thuggery and violence, rather than let the crowd turn.
Sad to say, however, I think every real dictator since then, having seen that footage, will go for thuggery and violence, rather than let the crowd turn.
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You know, if you slow today's speech down and watch it frame-by-frame you can actually spot the moment his head starts swivelling.
I just can't understand why there seemed to be such huge crowds cheering G/K(h)adaffi at one moment (even kissing his poster), but when the camera went back to him on his steps there seemed so few. I might almost believe it was two separate pieces of footage spliced together, if I were a colonialist drug-taking dog.
By-the-by, from today's speech it would seem he was giving yesterdays soundbite from his favourite golf cart. Explains the oversized umbrella as well. Which begs the question, who would win in a golf match between G/K(h)adaffi and our favourite Kim? I predict a tie, with both having rounds of 19 (hey, they're not quite perfect).
I just can't understand why there seemed to be such huge crowds cheering G/K(h)adaffi at one moment (even kissing his poster), but when the camera went back to him on his steps there seemed so few. I might almost believe it was two separate pieces of footage spliced together, if I were a colonialist drug-taking dog.
By-the-by, from today's speech it would seem he was giving yesterdays soundbite from his favourite golf cart. Explains the oversized umbrella as well. Which begs the question, who would win in a golf match between G/K(h)adaffi and our favourite Kim? I predict a tie, with both having rounds of 19 (hey, they're not quite perfect).
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Is there a transcript of the speech avalable?
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Kim would win. Remember, he got a hole in one on every hole the first time he played golf. He owns the sport, ergo, he would have a better golf cart.
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I think the reference is to Ceaucescu's final speech and his eventual realization that he was being booed, not cheered.
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Oh he's been slamming Mubarak and Gaddafi, but only because he regards them as puppets of the West (He was a fan of the latter until he 'reached' out to the West in 2004), not because they brutally oppress(ed) their people.
For some reason he's been fairly silent on 'his excellency' (his words) Dr Ahmadinejad's brutal crackdown on the Iranian protestors. Perhaps because he's not so bad. After all, he only practices the 'so-called stoning practice' (Again, his words).
Really? Then the word has no meaning.
What about all those suicide bombers? Aren't they martyrs in the Western sense, don't they sacrifice themselves for «the cause»?
Cleon
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"Martyr" is the English word. In Arabic, "shahid" is applied to anyone who dies fighting.
Not biting the troll bait. Sorry.
Galloway works at Press-TV, so basically Ahmadinejad is his boss.
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That's just what I'd been thinking.
The parallels with the fall of communism in Eastern Europe are striking, and I guess somebody had to draw the short straw and get to play Romania. Couldn't happen to a nicer guy.