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The Constitution Party

Don't let the name "Constitution Party" fool you. These people are christian fanatics, look at their position on porn:


Pornography, at best, is a distortion of the true nature of sex created by God for the procreative union between one man and one woman in the holy bonds of matrimony, and at worst, is a destructive element of society resulting in significant and real emotional, physical, spiritual and financial costs to individuals, families and communities. We call on our local, state and federal governments to uphold our cherished First Amendment right to free speech by vigorously enforcing our laws against obscenity to maintain a degree of separation between that which is truly speech and that which only seeks to distort and destroy.

With the advent of the Internet and the benevolent neglect of the previous administrations, the pornography industry enjoyed uninhibited growth and expansion until the point today that we live in a sex-saturated society where almost nothing remains untainted by its perversion. While we believe in the responsibility of the individual and corporate entities to regulate themselves, we also believe that our collective representative body we call government plays a vital role in establishing and maintaining the highest level of decency in our community standards.
 
Tony said:
Don't let the name "Constitution Party" fool you. These people are christian fanatics, look at their position on porn:

I think I figured that. I was finding it worrying that I was having dificulty putting these guys to the right of bush.
 
geni said:
I think I figured that. I was finding it worrying that I was having dificulty putting these guys to the right of bush.

I have recently tried to steer clear of the "left/right" dichotomy because I see it as generally useless, but nonetheless, I would say that Bush is just as "right" as these people. The "constitution" party is just more outspoken about their true intentions.
 
Tony said:
I have recently tried to steer clear of the "left/right" dichotomy because I see it as generally useless, but nonetheless, I would say that Bush is just as "right" as these people. The "constitution" party is just more outspoken about their true intentions.

That could not be more untrue. People who support the Constitution Party by and large despise George Bush. See, for example, Thomas Fleming and the crew at Chronicles magazine. (They have a web site but I do not have it bookmarked. Hold on to your hat if you read there -- these guys are highly intellectual and credentialed -- not at all stupid -- which makes what they put out all the more chilling.)

Fleming and other so-called Southern Agrarians are usually far-right Catholics or high church Xian, and they are isolationists who bitterly object to Bush's foreign policy. (See the CP platform on foreign policy in the link given in this thread.) They are also racists who lament that no one stands up for white interests, and they want to close our borders -- Bush's amnesty program makes them sick. They feel we need to maintain a white, European culture, and they do not want any more Hispanics; they'd like to kick most of them out. One of their major bugaboos is immigration and what they see as the pollution of "real" American culture that immigrants bring.

They hate large corporations such as Wal-Mart or McDonald's. (Indeed, Mickey D's is something of an idee fixe for Fleming, who thinks Americans are deluded that Mexicans can be assimilated just because they eat Big Macs.) They would like to halt some technological progress that would carry us further into modernity.

Actually, the Southern Agrarians such as Fleming, or Samuel Francis (fired by The Washington Times for overtly racist associations) share many views of the anti-globalization left. It is almost a matter of going so far right that one hooks up with those way left.

These folks hate the Enlightenment, and some will actually deny that speech should be entirely free. Fleming, for example, adheres to 19th cnetury papal pronouncements condemning classically liberal values. As far as they are concerned, the Enlightenment is responsible for Communism which is not all that distinguishable from liberal democracies, which lead to Communism eventually. For many, a Catholic constitutional monarchy is the ideal form of govt.

Really, whatever else is true, these people are not remotely lovers of George Bush, and they make him look like a flaming lefty. If you do make your way to the Chronicles site, you'll find they are CP supporters, and that they hate Bush just about as much as does Michael Moore.
 
Mona said:
That could not be more untrue. People who support the Constitution Party by and large despise George Bush. See, for example, Thomas Fleming and the crew at Chronicles magazine. (They have a web site but I do not have it bookmarked. Hold on to your hat if you read there -- these guys are highly intellectual and credentialed -- not at all stupid -- which makes what they put out all the more chilling.)

Fleming and other so-called Southern Agrarians are usually far-right Catholics or high church Xian, and they are isolationists who bitterly object to Bush's foreign policy. (See the CP platform on foreign policy in the link given in this thread.) They are also racists who lament that no one stands up for white interests, and they want to close our borders -- Bush's amnesty program makes them sick. They feel we need to maintain a white, European culture, and they do not want any more Hispanics; they'd like to kick most of them out. One of their major bugaboos is immigration and what they see as the pollution of "real" American culture that immigrants bring.

They hate large corporations such as Wal-Mart or McDonald's. (Indeed, Mickey D's is something of an idee fixe for Fleming, who thinks Americans are deluded that Mexicans can be assimilated just because they eat Big Macs.) They would like to halt some technological progress that would carry us further into modernity.

Actually, the Southern Agrarians such as Fleming, or Samuel Francis (fired by The Washington Times for overtly racist associations) share many views of the anti-globalization left. It is almost a matter of going so far right that one hooks up with those way left.

These folks hate the Enlightenment, and some will actually deny that speech should be entirely free. Fleming, for example, adheres to 19th cnetury papal pronouncements condemning classically liberal values. As far as they are concerned, the Enlightenment is responsible for Communism which is not all that distinguishable from liberal democracies, which lead to Communism eventually. For many, a Catholic constitutional monarchy is the ideal form of govt.

Really, whatever else is true, these people are not remotely lovers of George Bush, and they make him look like a flaming lefty. If you do make your way to the Chronicles site, you'll find they are CP supporters, and that they hate Bush just about as much as does Michael Moore.


Looks like you told me.

Do you have a link to this Chronicles site?
 
geni said:
Ok I would be slightly supprised if anyone other than the extreamist christians we get here from time to time voted for them but in case you missed it here their platform.

http://www.constitutionparty.com/party_platform.php#AIDS

I'm still not sure weather to put them to the left or right of Bush.

Without even clicking the link, why do I get the feeling that anyone who calls themselves the "Constitution Party" is probably ignorant of its meaning? I mean look at the libertarian loon Badnarik. He claims to be a "constitutional scholar", and yet I have yet to see even a single instance where he has been correct regarding it. Same for his butt-boy shanek.
 
Tony, here ya go.

I should add, Pat Buchanan has moved over to this crowd. As you may know, he has been making strange bedfellows with Ralph Nader, which makes some sense if you grasp where these "paleo-cons" are coming from.

As you will see, they hate "neo-cons" no less than does moveon.org.
 

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