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Telepathy

King of the Americas said:
... I could cite a criminal justice text book, wherein investigators are taught not to stare at the suspects back, least they be "made."

If memory serves me, there is a line in the UK special forces' manual that talks about silent hand-to-hand takedowns, and how you shouldn't focus on the back of their head because they will likely sense it.
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Even if these things were actually printed in books that is no indication that Telepathy exists ... that would only indicate someone who wrote a book thinks Telepathy exists.

It's exactly the same as you typing it here ... just because it's typed in an old book is no proof at all.

Uri Geller wrote several books, that in no way makes anything he typed to be factual or true.
 
If telepathy were real, it would be monetized, militarized and mundane.
 
King of the Americas said:
I am going to write down, in a seal envelope an 8 digit number..."NOT RANDOMLY GENERATED"...

This is a series of numbers I will create/choose, I hope semi-randomly, but I am certain no one can truly do that.

Each digit will be 0-9, and may appear more than once.
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Okay so... I'm not sure what he means by "NOT RANDOMLY GENERATED" and the "I hope semi-randomly". I guess he's going to just pick some numbers off the top of his head. Sure.

I actually feel like random is way better, because it's at least easy to calculate the odds of someone guessing correctly. 10% chance per number, and he says they need to be in the right place so that's good. If it's not as random as possible it adds in a wild card that shouldn't be there.

King of the Americas said:
Accuracy will be judged on how many numbers each participant gets to appear in the right place.
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Yeah, this is important to clearly define ahead of time. The odds of getting all of them right would be sufficiently low, and the odds of getting at least one right would be pretty good, so it's all about how many they get.

King of the Americas said:
We can have multiple tests, one over a day, one, a week, one a year...?
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I'd say if it's really a psychic power it should be repeatable, so you should run the experiment some number of times with the same participants. If one of the participants got more than expected correct one time but flubbed it the other five (or however many) then you could chalk that up to a fluke.

King of the Americas said:
Maybe fewer digits? What if we tried binary!? Just 1's & 0's?
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I mean, you have to keep crunching the numbers to ensure you're doing something that's statistically significant here. If you go down in how many possible digits you have to go up in how many you expect them to get right.

The main thing would be that you have to avoid doing what so many do, where they say "Oh! But he said four and even though there's not a four in that spot the numbers on either side are twos so in the center he pictured them coming together to make a four!" That may sound silly, but self-deluding mind games are extremely common with these kinds of tests.

Oh wait, he put me on ignore. Well, I'm posting anyway.
 
King of the Americas said:
Ever feel like someone or something is watching you?
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Yes, quite often, and I've been wrong much more frequently then I've been right. You have also been wrong on this point many times, but you have forgotten those times that did not match the pattern you were looking for. It's called confirmation bias.

If you look at the back of someone's head, more often than not they will turn and look right at you. Animals and humans who could identify the direction of an incoming predator were and are more likely to escape.
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Such claims have consistently failed rigorous scientific testing:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychic_staring_effect#cite_note-titchener-1
 
King of the Americas said:
Recent events and displays of well researched data has indicated to me, that 'telepathy' or the ability to extend one's consciousness beyond one's cranium is a real measurable phenomena, that has its basis in natural selection...

Ever feel like someone or something is watching you? Prey animals who can sense being watched, OFTEN look in direction of their stalker. If you look at the back of someone's head, more often than not they will turn and look right at you. Animals and humans who could identify the direction of an incoming predator were and are more likely to escape.

Fish and birds 'might' be using a single conscious rather than local physical inputs to alter direction.

When we see...light bounces off an object, is received by our retinas, flip-turned-right side up, and a picture is formed. But is that picture in our heads, or is it projected outward, outside of us, and by simply observing it, can we alter or change it, without touching it...?

After a few youtube searches I found some rather astounding test results.

Anyone here want to run a test, employing skeptics as the subjects??
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View some videos of bowhunters nailing oblivious pigs from close range. Without cues of sight, sound and most importantly scent there is no awareness.
 
theprestige said:
Nicely put. I'm going to use that from now on. Much pithier than my version.
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I immediately went looking for that xkcd chart of which industries would use which "gifts"... if they were real.
Unfortunately, despite having eight or so various claimed paranormal abilities... telepathy isn't one of them.

The point still stands.
 
Jim_MDP said:
I immediately went looking for that xkcd chart of which industries would use which "gifts"... if they were real.
Unfortunately, despite having eight or so various claimed paranormal abilities... telepathy isn't one of them.

The point still stands.
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There we go. Thank you. :)

I like that the military would use "curses and hexes".
You're damn right they would. :D
 
theprestige and I have disagreed on a lot of things in the past, but in this case I think he's spot-on. If telepathy is real, why aren't you a billionaire by now?

I predict the "oh, I could be, but..." response.
 
Btw, Instead of spending time and energy in this and that, yes and no, can't we check each and every possible interaction scientifically? What a person can transmit to other, scientifically?
 
fagin said:
Go on then Kumar, play scientist.

Others have, telepathy isn't real.

Staring at goats doesn't help neither.
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Have we scientifically checked each and every interaction between two people? Like as we speak other can listen at a distance. If we see other we interact.
 
Kumar said:
Btw, Instead of spending time and energy in this and that, yes and no, can't we check each and every possible interaction scientifically? What a person can transmit to other, scientifically?
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I have been sending you "Go to a crowded location and drop your pants" for the last few hours. Did you receive it and more importantly, did you do it?
 
Kumar said:
Btw, Instead of spending time and energy in this and that, yes and no, can't we check each and every possible interaction scientifically? What a person can transmit to other, scientifically?
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Yes, because that's never been done before... by people far more experienced at testing protocols than you or I. :rolleyes:


fagin said:
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Staring at goats doesn't help neither.
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Well... not for this purpose at least. I enjoy it though. :boggled:

--- Half kidding, my adult niece had a couple dozen pygmys... they're very intense. :p
 
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My offer originally made in another telepathy thread still stands: I am concentrating on a telephone number and a word. Phone the number, say the word and I will give you a thousand pounds. (I ought to offer more, but it feels improper to bet money I don't have.)
 
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