Ted's PalTalk Debate Challenge

TLN said:
Welcome back Ian.

Since you won't join me for a debate on PalTalk, here's some food for thought.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6037905/site/newsweek/
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The article says nothing whatsoever that we do not already know. Brain states influence mind states. This is certainly compatible with the notion that brain generates self and consciousness although it says nothing regarding the hypothesis that conscious states are literally brain activity. It is also compatible with my notion of the self and how it relates to the brain.

Now what I want to know is what the arguments for saying that "neuroscience shows that the 'soul' is the activity of the brain"? Nothing in the article remotely suggests this.

But since people on here are so insistent that science does indeed prove materialism I have taken the liberty of asking at another board.

http://forums.philosophyforums.com/showthread.php?t=11672
(Think I posted in wrong forum on there though :( )

PS I certainly do not mind going on Paltalk.
 
Interesting Ian said:
The article says nothing whatsoever that we do not already know. Brain states influence mind states. This is certainly compatible with the notion that brain generates self and consciousness although it says nothing regarding the hypothesis that conscious states are literally brain activity. It is also compatible with my notion of the self and how it relates to the brain.

Now what I want to know is what the arguments for saying that "neuroscience shows that the 'soul' is the activity of the brain"? Nothing in the article remotely suggests this.

But since people on here are so insistent that science does indeed prove materialism I have taken the liberty of asking at another board.

http://forums.philosophyforums.com/showthread.php?t=11672
(Think I posted in wrong forum on there though :( )

PS I certainly do not mind going on Paltalk.
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Great. I certainly would like to debate where you're mistaken about the article. When can we expect you on PalTalk?
 
TLN said:
Great. I certainly would like to debate where you're mistaken about the article. When can we expect you on PalTalk?
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I'm afraid there's nothing the article says which establishes materialism. There's nothing to discuss. Have you looked at that thread on the philosophy board yet? Even intelligent materialists do not agree with you.
 
Unfortunately I have been banned from that philosphy board after just 3 hours. No matter; I will post your link on another board and ask peoples' opinions.

Are you on paltalk now?
 
Interesting Ian said:
Unfortunately I have been banned from that philosphy board after just 3 hours. No matter; I will post your link on another board and ask peoples' opinions.

Are you on paltalk now?
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OK, I went on, but couldn't find you anywhere. Don't say I didn't try.
 
Interesting Ian said:
OK, I went on, but couldn't find you anywhere. Don't say I didn't try.
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Oh, come on! Ted asks, and 11 hours later, you go on Paltalk for 30 minutes and can't find him. Does that really surprise you?

State a time when you can be there. Consider that Americans are several hours behind your own timezone.

Show a little willingness, eh?
 
Interesting Ian said:
OK, I went on, but couldn't find you anywhere. Don't say I didn't try.
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You didn't try. :(

Trying would be naming a time in advance, and seeing Ted say, "Sure, I'll be there." And being flexible if he says, "Bad for me, how about this time" and agreeing on a time when you both can be there. Not merely you showing up, at whatever time you did, and being surprised that he's not sitting on Pal Talk 24/7 waiting for you.
 
Marian said:
You didn't try. :(

Trying would be naming a time in advance, and seeing Ted say, "Sure, I'll be there." And being flexible if he says, "Bad for me, how about this time" and agreeing on a time when you both can be there. Not merely you showing up, at whatever time you did, and being surprised that he's not sitting on Pal Talk 24/7 waiting for you.
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Now then? Or an hours time?

I'm not there for a quarrel though; any unfriendliness and I'll be gone.
 
Interesting Ian said:
Now then? Or an hours time?

I'm not there for a quarrel though; any unfriendliness and I'll be gone.
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Pal Talk is down right now. So maybe when it's up, and if Ted's around (and assuming you still are) that would work.

As far as unfriendliness, he wants to debate, but there's no reason for that to be uncivil. I certainly expect everyone to be civil ;)
 
Marian said:
Pal Talk is down right now. So maybe when it's up, and if Ted's around (and assuming you still are) that would work.

As far as unfriendliness, he wants to debate, but there's no reason for that to be uncivil. I certainly expect everyone to be civil ;)
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You're going to be there as well?
 
Interesting Ian said:
You're going to be there as well?
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Of course, wouldn't miss it. Ted's on there right now, and so am I. Looking forward to seeing you. :)
 
Marian said:
Well, Ted and I are on right now. So...now would be good. :)
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Just having a cup of coffee at the moment. Just finish that first. Be about 15 mins. Where will I find it? What's the room called?
 
Interesting Ian said:
Just having a cup of coffee at the moment. Just finish that first. Be about 15 mins. Where will I find it? What's the room called?
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Just log in, you're under "Interesting Ian" correct? Ted and I both have you on pal list, so we'll PM you when you log in. That way you won't even have to try to find the room. :D
 
Marian said:
Just log in, you're under "Interesting Ian" correct? Ted and I both have you on pal list, so we'll PM you when you log in. That way you won't even have to try to find the room. :D
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Ah! Excellent!
 
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