Teacher fired for "Veering from Evolution"

[bignickel]

The Origin of Species doesn't need to do this as evolution gives more than enough facts to show un-intelligent design, whereas the creationists have absolutely no facts just fiction and FAITH.

Poor creationists they are so desperate to spread their religion.

Fixed it for you.

 

[Wowbagger]

False science has always demanded that its undergraduates be forced into accepting their false theories.

I agree that this is often true, of false science.

This because their theory can NOT stand the logical questions that stem from its luck and chance philosophy that uis not scientific.

I assume you are talking about evolution.

What part of evolution is "luck and chance"?

I thought it was about selection pressures making an impact on the survival strategies of species in their specific enviornment, etc...

The Bible isn;t needed to do this as creation gives more than enough facts to show design, whereas the evolutionists have absolutely no facts just fiction and FAITH.

The fact is that we have documented many occurrences of evolution, and have a very good understanding of many of the details in its process. We can even use these details to anticipate many aspects of evolution, such as the course of disease.

How have facts of design been demonstrated, (other than through ontological arguments, bad math, etc.)?

"Irreducible Complexity" is only a matter of opinion. It can not be measured. Just because you can not figure out how something evolved, does not mean no one else will ever be able to. This has proven true in every example of ID given, thus far.

 

[~enigma~]

False science has always demanded that its undergraduates be forced into accepting their false theories. This because their theory can NOT stand the logical questions that stem from its luck and chance philosophy that uis not scientific. therefore they must, fire teachers that show biological facts and biological history.

The Bible isn;t needed to do this as creation gives more than enough facts to show design, whereas the evolutionists have absolutely no facts just fiction and FAITH.

Poor evolutionists they are so desperate to spread their religion.

Ahh...a follower of Kent Hovind. Are you going to prison for not paying taxes also?

 

[Mojo]

The Bible isn;t needed to do this as creation gives more than enough facts to show design

I'll ignore your lie about "evolutionists" having no facts, but can you provide a few of the "facts" that show design? Behe, Dembski et al. seem to be having a bit of bother finding any.

 

[Orangutan]

...logical questions that stem from its luck and chance philosophy...

That would be silly questions that show you have either not been listening or have failed to understand the lecturer. David, you seem particularly averse to understanding the subject that you are arguing against. How can you ever expect to argue coherently about subject you plainly demonstrate you do not understand. You must realize the impression you give of yourself? That's why you get responses like "Nope". You are just so far off in your arguments people aren't willing to get into a dialog with you, as they would have to educate you about the arguments you are trying to make first.

 

[Miss Anthrope]

So here is a link from another thread with more information. Get a load of this:

Helphinstine said in retrospect slides of Nazi death camps weren't appropriate for his freshman and sophomore students.
And given a second chance, he said he wouldn't introduce arguments from Ken Ham, president of Answers in Genesis, a group building a Creation Museum in Cincinnati dedicated to teaching a Bible-centric view of natural history.

Yet he claims he didn't teach ID, even though he said Evolution was "ridiculous" and cited KEN HAM. Yeah, right.

They were right to fire him.

 

[Achán hiNidráne]

You know, there is a point at which dogged stupidity is not charming anymore..

I think that DDJ reached and surpassed that point in a single bound when he claimed that Jesus invented sex.

 

[skeptifem]

False science has always demanded that its undergraduates be forced into accepting their false theories. This because their theory can NOT stand the logical questions that stem from its luck and chance philosophy that uis not scientific. therefore they must, fire teachers that show biological facts and biological history.

The Bible isn;t needed to do this as creation gives more than enough facts to show design, whereas the evolutionists have absolutely no facts just fiction and FAITH.

Poor evolutionists they are so desperate to spread their religion.

I agree, cuz its like totally logical that nazis, planned parenthood, and evolution are linked. I mean, like, 'duh'! no brainer!

 

[Achán hiNidráne]

False science has always demanded that its undergraduates be forced into accepting their false theories.

False science, eh? Right, let's do a comparison:

The numerical value of the constant π:
Science. π=3.14159 and so on.
The Bible: 1 Kings 7:23, which says:

And he made a molten sea, ten cubits from the one brim to the other: it was round all about, and his height was five cubits: and a line of thirty cubits did compass it round about.

Science: Rabbits don't chew cud.
Bible: Leviticus 11:5-6 which prohibits the eating of "coneys" and "hares" (i.e. rabbits) because they "chew the cud."

Science: Bats are mammals.
Bible: Bats are "birds" according to Leviticus 11:13,19

Science: The Earth spins on its axis orbits the sun.
Bible: From 1 Chronicles 16:30:

Fear before him, all the earth: the world also shall be stable, that it be not moved.

That's just a sample. I could go on and on and on and on...

You'd think your god, being an omniscient being and all, would be able to get his own universe right, wouldn't he?

This because their theory can NOT stand the logical questions that stem from its luck and chance philosophy...

OK, last time: Natural selection is not "luck" or "chance." While random mutations do occur only those mutations that result advantages will be passed on. There is no "luck" or "chance" in that. Do you need smaller words to help you understand, David?

And what "logical questions" are you talking about? I've made myself painfully familiar with creationist propaganda, and I'm yet to hear them make an argument that approached "logical."

...that uis [sic] not scientific. therefore they must, [sic] fire teachers that show biological facts and biological history.

No, they fired him because he was teaching pseudo-science and using the classroom as a podium for his far-right-wing garbage. You don't have to be an atheist to oppose that; just a tax payer who thinks that this country's public schools should play by the rules. Rule no. 1 starts off:

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...

Deal with it.

The Bible isn;t [sic] needed to do this as creation gives more than enough facts to show design...

So "creation" is evidence of... "creation?" How do we know the Bible is right? Because God said so. How do we know there is a God? Because the Bible said so.

OK, so what if the universe was created? How do you know it was the Christian God who did it? Why couldn't it have been a god from the Olympian pantheon, or the Aesir, or Krishna, or maybe the Jainists were right and the world has always been here. How do you know space aliens didn't create Earth or that we exist only as AI living in some interdimensional internet? Only you're arrogance tells you that Jehovah is the deity responsible for creation.

Of course, all of these groups would not only have to show evidence that their creation tale were true, but would have to explain away the nearly 200 years of solid, peer reviewed, data that show evolution to be fact.

What's your evidence DDJ? And you'll have to do better than Answers In Genesis or anything from Ken "Tax Cheat" Hovind, because those are child's play to shred.

...whereas the evolutionists have absolutely no facts just fiction and FAITH.

So the last two centuries of data we've collected from numerous sources and disciplines that show that life has evolved from common ancestors doesn't exist? We've spent millions, if not billions, of dollars on research into biology, zoology, botany, genetics, anthropology, paleontology, not to mention geology, astronomy, astrophysics, cosmology and we've come up with nothing? Not only that, some massive international conspiracy manufactured all this data and evidence and someone the truth has not gotten out?

And I thought moon-hoaxers were stupid.

Poor evolutionists they are so desperate to spread their religion.

Evolution is a religion? Evolution is a theory, and despite how the word has been misused by deluded fools such as yourself, theories are not hunches. We don't pull them from the air, or our rectal orifices. Theories exist to explain facts and data. If there were no facts or data that pointed to evolution, we wouldn't be having this discussion.

Religion on the other hand operates on faith. Faith, such as the faith that there is an omnipotent super-being who rules the universe and judges us all, operates WITHOUT evidence or reason of which believers are often damn proud of that reality.

It is best you learn the difference. That, and from the caliber of your previous posts, it is also best you seek psychiatric help.

 

[fuelair]

Ahh...a follower of Kent Hovind. Are you going to prison for not paying taxes also?

Let's just say DJ will stand behind him.

 

[Grimoire]

False science has always demanded that its undergraduates be forced into accepting their false theories. This because their theory can NOT stand the logical questions that stem from its luck and chance philosophy that uis not scientific. therefore they must, fire teachers that show biological facts and biological history.

The Bible isn;t needed to do this as creation gives more than enough facts to show design, whereas the evolutionists have absolutely no facts just fiction and FAITH.

Poor evolutionists they are so desperate to spread their religion.

So given that you use True science, could you explain how 33.17 times 3 and 1/3 is exactly 111?

 

[strathmeyer]

False science has always demanded that its undergraduates be forced into accepting their false theories. This because their theory can NOT stand the logical questions that stem from its luck and chance philosophy that uis not scientific. therefore they must, fire teachers that show biological facts and biological history.

The Bible isn;t needed to do this as creation gives more than enough facts to show design, whereas the evolutionists have absolutely no facts just fiction and FAITH.

Poor evolutionists they are so desperate to spread their religion.

Science is a process, it can not be true or false. Sorry Davidjayjordan. For example, saying the moon is 216,000 miles from the Earth is not false science, it is just a lie.

Although, the subject of the article did seem to have a Masters Degree in it.

 

[Achán hiNidráne]

Hark! Do I hear DDJ running to respond to any of this?

No?

Didn't think so.