Taking your Soul back....

[Wile E. Coyote]

Ooh, ooh! Look everyone, it's a train wreck!

Seriously, muscleman does not belong on a skeptic's forum. He questions nothing. Even Franko has some original ideas, but muscleman just spews the same crap the Catholic church has been spewing for centuries.

muscleman, please stop preaching here. Your feeble statements are backed only by rumor and speculation, and skeptics are not at all likely to accept what you say as anything other than monkey screeching.

 

[Tricky]

Seriously, muscleman does not belong on a skeptic's forum. He questions nothing. Even Franko has some original ideas, but muscleman just spews the same crap the Catholic church has been spewing for centuries.

Actually, tjwojo, Muscleman is Franko, or rather they are both creations of The Dungeonmaster. Though the Franko persona is definately more interesting, they both use identical tactics and neither can deviate an angstrom from the character charts that the DM has drawn up for them. That is why you will never get a concession on any point from either. This is apparently a little internet game this person plays to amuse himself.

I've been playing for quite a while, and I admit it can be fun. Don't think for an instant, though, that you will ever be able to have a real conversation with an imaginary character.

 

[arcticpenguin]

And Dave, LOL, your right, virtue is all there is to my life (religion) and I apply it wherevere I go, when I go to parties, play sports, go to school, or even date...

I'm guessing modesty and humility are not on your long list of virtues.

 

[Wile E. Coyote]

Actually, tjwojo, Muscleman is Franko, or rather they are both creations of The Dungeonmaster. Though the Franko persona is definately more interesting, they both use identical tactics and neither can deviate an angstrom from the character charts that the DM has drawn up for them. That is why you will never get a concession on any point from either. This is apparently a little internet game this person plays to amuse himself.

I've been playing for quite a while, and I admit it can be fun. Don't think for an instant, though, that you will ever be able to have a real conversation with an imaginary character.

Thanks for the insight! I will keep that in mind when I am considering punching my hand through my monitor.

 

[Doctor X]

How deliciously ironic.

The creator proves responsible for the behavior of his creations, including racism, and is judged accordingly.

--J.D.

 

[Samus]

[Actually, tjwojo, Muscleman is Franko, or rather they are both creations of The Dungeonmaster.

Not to spoil the fun, but is there a moderator on this site that can back that claim? We don't allow so-called "sock puppets" on the forums I mod, and we use the IP address logging to help enforce that.

Regardless, some arguments will never end. Better watch your back tjwojo, you don't want muscleman to kick your butt (as he has admitted to being an accomplished boxer).

 

[ntech]

Hey muscleman
How is the food there in the mental ward?

 

[Doctor X]

. . . as he has admitted to being an accomplished boxer. . . .

Which, I am sure, we should consider to have the same reliability as all of his other claims.

Nevertheless, if indeed an accomplished boxer, a gentleman he is not.

--J.D.

 

[Tricky]

Not to spoil the fun, but is there a moderator on this site that can back that claim? We don't allow so-called "sock puppets" on the forums I mod, and we use the IP address logging to help enforce that.

Nope, sorry dwb. This is an unmoderated forum, except for certain threads. We have had a few acknowledged sock puppets here (for example, Undercover Elephant has another persona which he no longer uses called Juggler). People have asked for IP addresses before (or even just to check if there are duplicates) and the answer has been resounding silence. That is one reason why The Dungeonmaster likes this forum so much.

 

[AP's sock puppet]

Not to spoil the fun, but is there a moderator on this site that can back that claim? We don't allow so-called "sock puppets" on the forums I mod, and we use the IP address logging to help enforce that.

How discriminatory. After all, sock puppets are people too.

 

[Franko]

but is there a moderator on this site that can back that claim? We don't allow so-called "sock puppets" on the forums I mod, and we use the IP address logging to help enforce that.

Ohh the A-Theists would never tolerate that!

Without there assortment of sock-puppets and other logical fallacies the A-Theists are nothing. They certainly have no logical evidence to back up their ridiculous religious dogma.

If we take away the A-Theists ability to sock-puppet themselves silly it wouldn't be neary as fun exposing them as the arrogant imbeciles that they truly are.

 

[c4ts]

How discriminatory. After all, sock puppets are people too.

People other than themselves. The difference is between an actor and a character played by that actor.

 

[justsaygnosis]

Muscleman.


P.S. Note to all, before you consider quoting musclemans entire post in your replies, consider the finite amount of server space on the planet.

Good to see your avatar on the board again. How's your daughter doing?

 

[arcticpenguin]

The thread is too long to read in its entirety, so I'll stick to the thread title: Taking your souls back

How long is the warranty period? Do we have to take in the original receipt with it?

 

[arcticpenguin]

People other than themselves. The difference is between an actor and a character played by that actor.

"Things are seldom what they seem.
Skim milk masquerades as cream."

 

[Hazelip]

Muscleman, I want you to rest assured about the state of my immortal soul.

There is no such thing as an immortal soul.

There. I hope you feel better.

 

[SpaceLord]

Ohh the A-Theists would never tolerate that!

Without there assortment of sock-puppets and other logical fallacies the A-Theists are nothing. They certainly have no logical evidence to back up their ridiculous religious dogma.

If we take away the A-Theists ability to sock-puppet themselves silly it wouldn't be neary as fun exposing them as the arrogant imbeciles that they truly are.

This coming from a man who commits the fallacy of composition in a syllogism at least once a day. And I am not sure why a sock puppet is a logical fallacy.


Sooo, Franko is the the forum member who:

routinely makes fallacies of logic,

calls sock puppets illogical but has 5 of his own,

as well as the forum's only resident logical deist.

Yep, franko is highly logical.

 

[Ladewig]

Muscleman, I agree with you. At least the part where you say, "this is a VERY, VERY long post." As for the rest: no. I disagree with your conclusions and I disagree with your premises. For instance,

No other so-called Gods have given the profound laws and guidelines effective in governing as Jesus did..

Actually, there have been a number of ancient religions that have provided profound laws and effective guidelines. And some of those religions have had resurrected dieties and demi-gods. And others had virgin births. So I don't see much unique material in your god stories.

As for me and my soul, we will worship the Aztec God of numbers and stars: Mixcóatl. All hail Mixcóatl. With apologies to Irving Berlin, anything your god can do my god can do better.

 

[evildave]

well atleast when you die, you cant blaim anyone but yourself, for now you already know...

And Dave, LOL, your right, virtue is all there is to my life (religion) and I apply it wherevere I go, when I go to parties, play sports, go to school, or even date...What virtues do you have? Its ok to be gay?

Actually, I do subscribe to most of the what Christians call "Christian" virtues. Of course, this is just another means of coopting what is generic virtue and trying to claim it's singularly "christian".

I forgive more than most, and don't hold any real grudges. I generally follow the "golden rule", but heck, so do animals, if you pay attention. I pay attention to family and work to make things a little better in the world in my own curious fashion. I generally don't bother judging people, since it's too much effort to find out enough be "fair".

Naturally, special veneration or reverence for various flavors of religious dogma is not among such virtues, as I don't generally consider them as such.

I believe in one god fewer than most is all. Actually 2~3 gods/demigods and various pantheons, according to categories of religious belief. Since I can find Christians who believe in God/Jesus as seperate entities and as a singular entity, I can't even really speak of ALL Christians as monotheistic.

Is it OK to be happy? Of course it is. If you mean "be attracted to the same sex", well that's between the consenting adults that practice it. Who am I to judge them for what makes them happy, if I give people all this slack about religion making them happy?

 

[Julia]

Muscleman,
I have been working on figuring out your real point in posting on this forum. Other than to stir trouble, I don't believe you have one.
You have your posturing down, however, and lots of attitude.
You are preaching to the wrong choir. Do you really believe
you will make anyone here see the (your) light.
I don't even call myself an athiest. But people like you make me want to become one.
You seem young and arrogant. Perhaps come back after you've
done some growing up.