Syrian war, terrorism and climate change

[Mycroft]

Well, you've already admitted that this topic concerns you because you somehow believe that it takes away blame from the guilty, so when a compelling case is made that there is something to the effect, you saying it's bs is pretty transparent.

I'm not entirely sure what our disagreement is; you're the one who linked to the article that said Bernie Sanders went too far with his claim, and I agree with that.

Could one argue that climate change contributed to ISIS? Well, kinda. Syria was suffering a drought, which may have put stress on the government and weakened it's ability to deal with ISIS.

Or not. Maybe there was no effect. You can't even difinitively say that the drought is a result of climate change because droughts have always happened. The proposal is entirely theoretical. The focus of the study Sanders referenced wasn't even terrorism. At best climate change is plausable, in a theoretical sense, as a contributing factor. Much more immediate factors are racial tensions, religious tensions, instability caused by the war in Iraq, the availablility of top brass military personal from when the Bush administration fired the Iraqi military, the vaccuum in power caused by the withdrawal from Iraq of the Obama administration, the rise of violent ideologies funded by the Saudis....lots and lots of real factors that are not theoretical at all.

 

[Joey McGee]

I'm not entirely sure what our disagreement is; you're the one who linked to the article that said Bernie Sanders went too far with his claim, and I agree with that.

He overstated the claim based on the terminology he used, but other than this quibble, nothing else to call bull.

Could one argue that climate change contributed to ISIS? Well, kinda. Syria was suffering a drought, which may have put stress on the government and weakened it's ability to deal with ISIS.

Or not. Maybe there was no effect. You can't even difinitively say that the drought is a result of climate change because droughts have always happened. The proposal is entirely theoretical. The focus of the study Sanders referenced wasn't even terrorism. At best climate change is plausable, in a theoretical sense, as a contributing factor.

I think when you look at the case that the Defense Department made, "theoretically plausible" is as much understating it as much as saying there is a direct causul link is overstating it.

Much more immediate factors are racial tensions, religious tensions, instability caused by the war in Iraq, the availablility of top brass military personal from when the Bush administration fired the Iraqi military, the vaccuum in power caused by the withdrawal from Iraq of the Obama administration, the rise of violent ideologies funded by the Saudis....lots and lots of real factors that are not theoretical at all.

Where did anyone say it was the main cause?

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