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Superman died.

thaiboxerken

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Christopher Reeve was a good man and a hero to many, both on screen and off screen. The world was definitely changed by this man. Goodbye Chris!
 
And one day, federally funded fetal stem cell research may bring him back from the grave.

I wonder if death will stop political exploitation of his tragedy?
 
Corplinx,

I am confused by your response. First of all, I assume that Reeve was championing Stem Cell research.

Is this correct?

Secondly (and this is based on the above being correct), you seem to take offence at his championing this cause.

Can you exand on your commentary a bit?
 
Reeve was a key speaker and political activist speaking for and fighting for embrionic stem cell research. Is that bad? Is it bad that he was fighting for a way to get himself and others cured? Is it bad that there have been several medical breakthroughs because of his political activism?
 
corplinx said:
And one day, federally funded fetal stem cell research may bring him back from the grave.

I wonder if death will stop political exploitation of his tragedy?
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That's interesting, corpx, that's an interesting reply. It almost looks like you just want to throw away the disabled, the neverl-able, and so on, the way you put that.

Did you mean that?
 
http://maddox.xmission.com/c.cgi?u=creeve


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I wonder if death will stop political exploitation of his tragedy?
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So, the fact that one man was fighting for a chance to return to a resemblance of normal life means that he was exploiting his tragedy? And that others should forget his example because he is dead now?

Please expand your point (if, for once, you have one)
 
Mr Manifesto said:
Much as I hate to be in concurrance with Nie, it is actually funny. And the article he's linked to is even funnier.
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Maybe you think so... would you like to share what you found funny about it?

The only thing I find funny in that site is that the author manages to be able to use the internet... But on the other hand, so can Nie...
 
Megalodon said:
Maybe you think so... would you like to share what you found funny about it?

The only thing I find funny in that site is that the author manages to be able to use the internet... But on the other hand, so can Nie...
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Well, there is:

For those of you who don't know, Christopher Reeve is the guy who played "Superman" in all four coma-inducing movies during the 80's. Before I even get started about his injury, I'd like to point out that "the curse of Superman" is bullsh!t, and I'd love nothing more than to punch the guy who came up with it. Just like the E! True Hollywood Stories "curse of The Little Rascals," it's much publicized Hollywood trash. Half the time they try to pass off a tragic event due to a "curse," it turns out that the actors died at the age of 86. Yeah real tragic, dumbass. An actor got murdered or paralyzed after living a healthy youth? Excuse me while I ◊◊◊◊ myself in awe at the mysterious power of the curse.

In 1995 "the curse" struck Reeve as he was riding a horse called "Eastern Express." The horse was running around, trying to get the gangly ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ off of his back when he finally came to an abrupt stop before a jump, leaving Reeve's sh!t in ruins. Reeve became paralyzed from the neck down after the accident (more like conspiracy, another reason to add horse to the dinner menu).
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(My favorite Maddoxism: "To ruin one's sh!t")

Then there's this hilarious screed:

I didn't have any beef with Reeve before his accident, but it's the praise he collects for his selfishness that makes him an ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊ in my book. If tomorrow Reeve selflessly dedicated all of his time and effort--or even half of it--towards finding a cure for cancer or heart disease, he'd have my respect (not that he's trying to earn my respect, but having my respect is an awesome privilege). Hell, he'd earn my respect if he just cut the condescending bullsh!t for a few minutes, such as this prize quote "I've noticed that there are very few roles for people in chairs... I would like to see people with disabilities featured sympathetically." No sh!t? As opposed to all those other movies that show people with disabilities being demonized? Like it happens so often anyway. Why should people with disabilities be featured any more sympathetically than people without disabilities? If his goal is to live a normal life, how normal could his life be if all his future roles were "sympathetic"? Oh look, here comes the cripple, everyone act sympathetic regardless of the plot, because real life cripples never experience conflict or drama. If I were in a wheel chair, I'd want an ass kicking role where I would spend the entire movie running over people's fingers and tossing old ladies off of cliffs, not some suck-ass sissy role where I'd sit around and cry like a pussy.
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He also makes some relevant points in the essay, if you'd care to have a look. The modern phenomenon of celebrities suddenly finding the need to crusade for a cause that just so happens to coincidentally directly effect them (Delta Goodrem for Leukemia... And publicity... Belinda F***ing Emmet for cancer of the norks... and publicity... Olivia-Neutron Bomb for cancer of the jubbly-wubblies... and more goddam publicity) is probably one of the greatest annoyances of today.
 
Mr Manifesto said:
The modern phenomenon of celebrities suddenly finding the need to crusade for a cause that just so happens to coincidentally directly effect them (Delta Goodrem for Leukemia... And publicity... Belinda F***ing Emmet for cancer of the norks... and publicity... Olivia-Neutron Bomb for cancer of the jubbly-wubblies... and more goddam publicity) is probably one of the greatest annoyances of today.
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Oh, heavens to betsy, we can't have people acting in their own interest, can we?

You're as appalling as NTW.
 
On that note, if NTW was a celebrity, he'd be campaigning for mental retardation.
 
Marc Klass didn't begin his crusade against child abductions until after his daughter was kidnapped and murdered. He has nothing to gain in his endeavors; preventing future crimes won't bring Polly back to him. Sometimes, it takes a personal experience to wake someone up to a cause, but that shouldn't insinuate to someone that those personal tragedies are evidentiary in a case accusing someone of pure self-motivation. It's of course possible that Reeve was driven by pangs of self-pity, but it's not nice to say that he was when you didn't even know the guy and what kind of person he was.
 
I can't imagine what it must be like to be confined to a wheelchair in mid-stride as it were.

I have a friend who can, since he has been in one for about 15 years now...and he is of the opinion that Reeves could have done a lot to help research on reversing spinal cord injuries *before* he had his accident.

Just his opinion of course.
 
Mr Manifesto said:
Well, there is:

Then there's this hilarious screed:
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Ok, we have a different sense of humour, apparentely.

He also makes some relevant points in the essay, if you'd care to have a look. The modern phenomenon of celebrities suddenly finding the need to crusade for a cause that just so happens to coincidentally directly effect them (Delta Goodrem for Leukemia... And publicity... Belinda F***ing Emmet for cancer of the norks... and publicity... Olivia-Neutron Bomb for cancer of the jubbly-wubblies... and more goddam publicity) is probably one of the greatest annoyances of today.
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So, you find objectable that a person in a case of personal dificulty uses all it's assets in search for a solution?

Imagine this scenario:
You have a serious illness, and you fin out that there was a better treatment somewhere abroad.
Would you refrain from using your money to get it just because before you hadn't sponsored the treatment of another patient?

Because that's what you're advocating here.

If a person happens to be famous and uses it's fame in a self-serving way, I have no problem with it. If the self-serving way ends up aiding countless anonymous others, I'm very happy for it.

Reeve's death was a tragedy, not bigger, not smaller than any other we never hear about... just different. With is death an important voice for the advance of medical science was silenced.

I mourn for that.
 
crimresearch said:
he is of the opinion that Reeves could have done a lot to help research on reversing spinal cord injuries *before* he had his accident.
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Yes, he could. But does waiting until *after* he had his accident make his campaigning less important and useful?

Perhaps it even made more impact than a fully-fit person campaigning, who knows?
 
Reeve could've done more for the cause before he finished High School! Why did he wait?! That a-hole!
 
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