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StopSylvia: Amanda Berry SAW the MW ep with her mom!

So good to see you here, Robert!

I'm also so sad that Amanda watched that episode. I cannot even begin to imagine how she must have felt when she came up and heard what Sylvia said. I suppose her heart sinking and her stomach twisting would only be the beginning. :(

And Sylvia's non-apology makes me think even less of her, if that was even possible. I'll now read those links.
 
RSLancastr said:
Nice to see you too. Minarv!

Read THIS:

Amanda Berry on the despair of watching a TV psychic tell your mom you're dead
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That...was incredibly sad. I am heartened, tho, by the comments of readers who are taking the fraud seriously. I'm still angry with Montel for his non-apology. Sylvia is gone, but even she never owned up to an apology, either. Ever. Her insulting statement that "only God is right all of the time" seems to me to be very patronizing and non-apologetic. :(
 
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Minarvia said:
That...was incredibly sad. I am heartened, tho, by the comments of readers who are taking the fraud seriously. I'm still angry with Montel for his non-apology. Sylvia is gone, but even she never owned up to an apology, either. Ever. Her insulting statement that "only God is right all of the time" seems to me to be very patronizing and non-apologetic. :(
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Agreed on all counts, Minarv!

You've certainly come long way, haven't you?
 
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Agreed on all counts, Minarv!

You've certainly come long way, haven't you?
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Ha! Yes, I have! :)

Nowadays I can't believe that I ever bought into her or John Edward. :o

I've been following Scientology's downfall these past several years and I think it feels pretty much the same for those inside the belief. You truly don't think that irrationality applies to you when it's...well...YOU. But then all it takes is one instance of doubt and being willing to consider that you can be wrong. When that happens it is shocking, depressing, and then, in the end, the most liberating experience. When you get past the initial shock and upset you reach the mindset where you can't believe you were ever fooled so easily. But again, YOU are the one doing the most fooling, right?

I'm so glad I broke free!

Okay, end of derail! Now I am curious how Sylvia's empire is doing without her. I imagine it is alive and well, at least for a few years. It will probably die off if all the reports about Chris DuFresne being not so good of a reader are true.

And then I suppose her Novus Spiritus will begin circling the drain much as Scientology is right now.
 
Minarvia said:
Ha! Yes, I have! :)

Nowadays I can't believe that I ever bought into her or John Edward. :o
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Yes, my Better Half says exactly the same thing, and gets even more disgusted than I do (if that's possible) when we see either of them on television!

I guess it's the same "What in the world was I thinking?!??" feeling that my ex-wife evidently gets if and when she thinks of our marriage. :(

I've been following Scientology's downfall these past several years and I think it feels pretty much the same for those inside the belief. You truly don't think that irrationality applies to you when it's...well...YOU. But then all it takes is one instance of doubt and being willing to consider that you can be wrong. When that happens it is shocking, depressing, and then, in the end, the most liberating experience. When you get past the initial shock and upset you reach the mindset where you can't believe you were ever fooled so easily. But again, YOU are the one doing the most fooling, right?

I'm so glad I broke free!
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I bet you are! and I'm glad you did, too - and even more glad that you have shared your journey with us! Thank you so much for having done so!

Okay, end of derail! Now I am curious how Sylvia's empire is doing without her. I imagine it is alive and well, at least for a few years. It will probably die off if all the reports about Chris DuFresne being not so good of a reader are true.
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Have you heard anything about that lately, or are you just referring to some of the emails about him on SSB?

And no worries - More of a Sidetrack than a derail, Minarv.

And then I suppose her Novus Spiritus will begin circling the drain much as Scientology is right now.
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It's a good feeling to have helped pull the plug out of one of those tubs! :)
 
As the largest unpaid creditor during 'psychic actress' Noreen Renier's most recent bankruptcy I was granted subpoena power from the U.S. Bankruptcy Court. That allowed me to see across thousands of cashed checks, deposits, withdrawals, etc., covering many multiple checking and financial accounts of Noreen Renier. There were many dozens of checks written to her for $1000.00 (and other amounts) from parents and relatives of missing children. Every check was cashed but not a single child was found due to any paranormal powers by Renier. Coupled with the fact that we were able to show the court that Noreen Renier failed to declare more than $100,000.00 in income on her initial bankruptcy filings, and failed to report one checking account alone that had more than $100,000.00 in deposits/withdrawals --- check off the box that a "not credible" status is not uniquely Browne's.
 
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Last night, Susan was watching an episode of ABC's "20/20".

I was in another part of the house (on the computer, of course) but would catch snippets of the dialogue and narration.

Eventually, I realized that the segment was all about the Cleveland kidnapping of Amanda Berry, Gina De Jesus and the third girl, whose name escapes me at the moment.

I went to watch the rest of it with Susan, catching the last several minutes of the segment.

It was a recent interview of Berry and De Jesus, intercut with photos of the rooms in which they were held captive and videos of their rescue.

One part that really turned my stomach was when Amanda talked about her ACTUALLY WATCHING THE ORIGINAL BROADCAST OF THE MONTEL WILLIAMS EPISODE IN WHICH SYLVIA BROWNE TOLD AMANDA'S MOTHER THAT AMANDA WAS DEAD.

She (Amanda) said that back then she watched the show every time that Browne was on, and that she often wished that her mother would go on the show so that Browne could tell her that Amanda was still alive.

Imagine her disappointment and despair when Browne told Amanda's mother that Amanda was dead!

It was mentioned that Amanda and Gina have a book out about their ordeal, and I intend to read it when I can.

ETA: The "MY" in the thread title was supposed to be "MW" (Montel Williams) - sorry.
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Browne did the same thing to Shawn Hornbeck's parents on, yep Montel Williams' show. And Browne's response to that blooper was yet again "Only God is right all the time.

In 2002, Browne told the parents of missing 11-year-old Shawn Hornbeck on the Montel Williams Show that the child was dead and kidnapped by a dark-skinned man with dreadlocks.

Hornbeck was found alive in 2007 and his accused kidnapper, Michael Devlin, was Caucasian and short-haired. Hornbeck's stepfather, Craig Akers, told Anderson Cooper that Browne offered to do a more extensive psychic reading off-camera for $700. She denied the claim.

When she was asked about her inaccurate prediction, she responded with the same sentence, "Only God is right all the time."
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/21/sylvia-browne_n_4317470.html
 
Scordatura said:
Browne did the same thing to Shawn Hornbeck's parents on, yep Montel Williams' show. And Browne's response to that blooper was yet again "Only God is right all the time.



http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/11/21/sylvia-browne_n_4317470.html
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Yes, I broke the story of Browne's blunder in the Hornbeck story, putting an article about it on my "Stop Sylvia Browne" web site the same day that Shawn Hornbeck was found alive:

http://www.stopsylvia.com/articles/montel_shawnhornbeck.shtml
 
RSLancastr said:
Yes, I broke the story of Browne's blunder in the Hornbeck story, putting an article about it on my "Stop Sylvia Browne" web site the same day that Shawn Hornbeck was found alive:
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Was late to the party Robert, but really enjoyed your website when I found it in 2012-2013'ish (after your appearance on the Paul Harris KTRS radio show in St. Louis).

I've emailed this to Paul previously, but it was my exposure to his show and his blog that was the catalyst to steering me towards adopting a more proactive critical thinking approach to life (gradual process in the last four or five years). Landing on your website obviously was a major component towards steering me down the right path.
 
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