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Stealing elections

BStrong said:
One of my older relatives often described election day incentives in his youth - a choice between a .50 cent cigar or a shot of whiskey for a straight party ticket vote - offered by the local democratic party in the New Orleans parish and this was both before and after WWII, right up into the 1960's, and another oldtimer has told me about the repubs rigging the voting machines in the central valley here in California to not count demo votes - and he knew of this because he and his partner in their machine shop did the work themselves.
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Clearly the first method is quite conspicuous, and wouldn´t be acceptable (so not possible) by today´s standards. The second method I was obviously only made possible thanks to the existence of voting machines. I think it´s quite obvious that voting machines are a hazard and it worries me that not enough resistance is raised agaist them. They are slowly worming their way into the electoral processes of many countries, countries where the achievement of democracy was fought with great pains, only to stupidly lose it again thanks to those damn voting machines... Why am I so alone in seeing this?
 
Abooga said:
Clearly the first method is quite conspicuous, and wouldn´t be acceptable (so not possible) by today´s standards. The second method I was obviously only made possible thanks to the existence of voting machines. I think it´s quite obvious that voting machines are a hazard and it worries me that not enough resistance is raised agaist them. They are slowly worming their way into the electoral processes of many countries, countries where the achievement of democracy was fought with great pains, only to stupidly lose it again thanks to those damn voting machines... Why am I so alone in seeing this?
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Because it is a bit paranoid?
There was PLENTY of voter fraud in the days of paper,hand counted ballets.
Of course we need to monitor the use of voting machines carefully,but to suggest they are part of some vast conspiracy to destroy democracy is ,frankly, just more Conspirqcy Theory crap.
 
dudalb said:
Because it is a bit paranoid?
There was PLENTY of voter fraud in the days of paper,hand counted ballets.
Of course we need to monitor the use of voting machines carefully,but to suggest they are part of some vast conspiracy to destroy democracy is ,frankly, just more Conspirqcy Theory crap.
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Paranoid? Worrying about the fact that voting fraud is being made easier is not being paranoid, it´s just common sense. And please note that I never suggested any conspiracy, I´m just saying that having a democracy is meaningless unless you trust the safety of the voting method.
 
I have inspected the voting process in the function of a Poll Watcher as one of Trump's Stormtroopers* and will be watching the count happen. I feel confident my mostly irrelevant county in my usually irrelevant state is in good hands and I'll report on my observations after.




*sneaking in undercover and reporting to my ISF masters within the bounds of law and oath
 
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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/23/jill-stein-election-recount-fund-michigan-wisconsin-pennsylvania Now they are asking for money to recount votes. Why didn´t they count those votes on election day... for free?

I just don´t get it. In my small town in Spain we use paper ballot. Votes are counted in the colleges in front of ebservers of each party and some randomly chosen citizens and this "work" is not something that anyone has ever complained about. It´s transparent, and very hard to tamper with. So WHY ON EARTH do they not do that in the US? We´re supposed to be the "lazy spaniards" yet we count votes by hand and we think nothing of it. In the US they have to use those obscure voting machines, casting a shadow of doubt on the legitimacy of the process... And hardly anyone bats an eye. I just don´t understand.

Ok, some people do complain. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/29/security-experts-join-jill-steins-election-changing-recount-campaign
 
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Cain said:
Democrats steal elections by recruiting minorities and the poor to vote -- directly contradicting the intentions of the Founding Fathers.
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Yeah those damned minorities! How DARE they vote for the party that most corresponds to their values and objectives?
 
There is an undercover video of a woman wearing a full burka walking into a NY city polling place. She tells the poll worker her name is Huma Abedin. She apparently has no ID. Female poll worker says 'since you are not in the book you cannot use the voting machine, but if thats you, whatever you want, you can vote with this paper ballot instead'.

"Huma" tells poll worker OK I will discuss it with my husband Anthony.

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Undercover Journalist in Full Burka Is Offered Huma Abedin's Ballot


https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query="Huma+abedin"+in+burka++votes+at+poling+place
 
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