Space Center ghost?

[rppa]

The second post was most likely correct.
(a nod to last post too -k)
This rooms looks like a collection or display of spacesuit items.

Here is one being worn, instead of being displayed 'open' for display with hanging wires: Cooling Garment

In the spirit of the "evidence" which started this thread:

My aunt photographed this astronaut while on the NASA tour. The ectoplasmic figure seated in the background was not visible when she took the picture. It's really spooky. I think it's the spirit of an astronaut who was killed in the building. I've written to NASA and asked them about it but so far they are keeping mum. Obviously they know their building is haunted and they don't want to word to get out.

To Lucianrchy: Do you see the problem with the "evidence"? You accept it at face value that the provenance of the original picture is as cited (an aunt on a routine tour, even though none of us who have been on such tours have ever seen such a room), that the white undergarment was not visible in the original room, that somebody did ask someone at NASA about this picture, and that no response was received. None of that constitutes evidence. In fact, more than likely none of it is true.

 

[Mercutio]

To Lucianrchy: Do you see the problem with the "evidence"? You accept it at face value that the provenance of the original picture is as cited (an aunt on a routine tour, even though none of us who have been on such tours have ever seen such a room), that the white undergarment was not visible in the original room, that somebody did ask someone at NASA about this picture, and that no response was received. None of that constitutes evidence. In fact, more than likely none of it is true.

I would like to second this, and add that this could be the case even if the person reporting the picture is being completely honest! None of the information presented is firsthand knowledge--his aunt took the photo, his aunt contacted NASA...There are too many steps along the way where error can creep in, even if every link along the way is honest. And of course, there is no guarantee of that.

 

[Uh_Clem]

Even the Coast to Coast folks admit it looks a lot like the "Liquid Cooled and Ventilation Garment".

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/gen/page529.html

 

[Dogwood]

It's an interesting picture alright. I don't think the coolant suit is a good candidate though. It doesn't seem to have the ribbing that the object in the "ghost" photo has. And although the "wire" that Claus points out is suspiscious, it doesn't seem to line up with the raised arm. If you follow the angle suggested, it would seem to meet at the point of the "shoulder" of whatever it is.

Also, I don't know what "bended leg" everyone is talking about. It appears to me that the objects legs are obscured below the knees by the display case?

 

[Operaider]

Mark, I agree with you on all but 1 point

I do think that the wire that claus pointed out doesn't seem to fully fit. It doesn't seem to be where you'd expect it to be. Though I do think that it is suspicious, and probably is holding up the suit. Just attached in a different way.

I also think that the "bended leg" is not part of the suit. I think it much more likely that it is a separate object sitting on the table. Possibly another suit folded on the table. That would explain why it is so hard to tell them apart.

The thing I don't agree with is the ribbing. I think this fits with what the suit's purpose is. It is made up of many tubes that carry cold water throughout the suit. While many of these tubes are not visible when there is someone in the suit. They show up much better when the suit is empty

 

[Operaider]

here is another

 

[Dogwood]

Mark, I agree with you on all but 1 point

The thing I don't agree with is the ribbing. I think this fits with what the suit's purpose is. It is made up of many tubes that carry cold water throughout the suit. While many of these tubes are not visible when there is someone in the suit. They show up much better when the suit is empty

Hi Operaider. Thanks for the pics. These suits certainly do have a ribbing of a sort, but it doesn't look the same to me as the close up photo posted on the coast to coast site. I'll try to post it below, but if that doesn't work try this link, here.. These "ribs" look more like an internal framework or something. They're larger and "blockier" than the ones in the photos you provided I think. Do you see what I mean? Maybe it's just my screen.

Anyway, I think I see what the leg is that's being referred to. It appears to me to be the pages of an open book viewed on edge that just happens to intersect with the object. Here's the pic...maybe.

Nevermind. It was too big. Please use the link.

 

[Ratman_tf]

What strikes me is the "figure's" left arm. It appears flat and twisted, just like... an empty sleeve?

 

[richardm]

Originally posted by Lucianarchy (Well, by the original article, actually:
She sent the picture to NASA and...they replied that they had no explanation as to what it was, meaning, it was not any kind of equipment or gear they use or have used in the past, so whatever it is, it's not an intended part of the scenery."

That is such a jump. She had contact with NASA, who said they couldn't explain what it was. "I dunno", and probably "I don't much care either". From that, she extrapolates that it was not any kind of equipment or gear they use or have used in the past. I think that's an over-generous interpretation.

 

[richardm]

It appears to be the figure of a partially decomposed / skeletal figure, kneeling, back to the camera.

Never mind that. What about all those decomposed skeletal figures in the gold space suits on the left? Not only are they standing up by themselves, they're actually floating in mid air

 

[Prester John]

So what type of spacesuits are they then, the ones hanging on the wall ? Are they NASA issue ?

edited to add: i've posted the question at the BadAstronomy board as well.

 

[richardm]

So what type of spacesuits are they then, the ones hanging on the wall ? Are they NASA issue ?

Hm. My first thought was that they might be Mercury-era suits, but I see that they were actually silver coloured. My second thought was: Is that how NASA store their old spacesuits, then? Given that they won't even rent them out to movie-makers, one would imagine that they'd take a bit more care with them.

 

[Lucianarchy]

Never mind that. What about all those decomposed skeletal figures in the gold space suits on the left? Not only are they standing up by themselves, they're actually floating in mid air

Yes. Well spotted.

I think they are standing to attention whilst their leader, 'King Skelletor', adresses them in readiness for the invasion plan for planet Earth - 4th August 2004.

 

[CFLarsen]

I find it a little difficult to understand why NASA would store a handful of expensive spacesuits somewhere like that. Can anyone identify the suits? Photos of them being in use?

Do we know for a fact that this picture is from NASA?

So many questions, no answers.....

 

[Dogwood]

Do we know for a fact that this picture is from NASA?

Good point. This could be a photo from the back lot of the movie Apollo 13 as far as we know.

 

[MRC_Hans]

Yes. Well spotted.

I think they are standing to attention whilst their leader, 'King Skelletor', adresses them in readiness for the invasion plan for planet Earth - 4th August 2004.

Good one, that!

Hans

 

[TheBoyPaj]

Yeah, and I bet if a bunch of aliens came down and killed the whole of the west, you'd claim THAT as a hit too! How much wiggle room do you want?

 

[Operaider]

I have no backing for this; it's just a thought.

Since the suits have tubes running through them, carrying cold water. Wouldn't there be a possibility of the water fermenting in the tubes when it was left to sit?

Is it possible that hanging the suit up is a way of draining it? Even if they used some type of pump to remove the water, I would still think it would need to be laying flat or hanging up for the air pressure to remove it all.

We would need to hear from someone who knows allot about NASA to give any credence to this theory

 

[Nihilanth]

When I first checked out this thread, I couldn't get the link to the picture to come up. So I was just left reading what people thought it might be. And then the picture shows up in CFLarsen's thread, and I couldn't stop laughing. I can photograph a more believable ghost every time my dryer breaks. I can't understand why someone would even TRY to claim this is a ghost. They'd be better off saying it was a captured Moon-Man, wailing at the loss of his brethren who are obviously lying in a melted stack in the background. That's be more interesting, too.

"Finally, I've broken through the NWO-Reptilian controlled prison where the MIB were keeping me! Wait, what's in this room? My friends? Melted?" *Falls to his knees.* "NNNNOOOOO!!!"

 

[Anders]

I find it a little difficult to understand why NASA would store a handful of expensive spacesuits somewhere like that. Can anyone identify the suits? Photos of them being in use?

Do we know for a fact that this picture is from NASA?

So many questions, no answers.....

We dont't really know anything about that photo, thats right.

Maybe someone with some image analysis software and knowledge would like to check out the mark on the helmet nearest the camera, and the text and pictures on the left board?

Perhaps that would give us a clue!