Some basic questions about Bigfoot

[Drewbot]

Yes, imagine the niche that a fishing Bigfoot would have had to fill in PNW Native American areas. You have Native Americans with huge nets pulling thousands of salmon out of the rivers of the PNW. And the solitary Bigfoot, competing with these technologically advanced fisherman, and giant coastal Brown Bears. Perhaps Bigfoot just waited for the salmon to die, and foraged rotting carrion.

http://www.orcas-island-rentals.com/deer-harbor-native-americans.html

 

[Resume]

How would you respond to footers that talk about Denisova hominins of Siberia where only one finger was found.

It was discovered I would say. Unlike . . .

 

[Correa Neto]

Yes, imagine the niche that a fishing Bigfoot would have had to fill in PNW Native American areas. You have Native Americans with huge nets pulling thousands of salmon out of the rivers of the PNW. And the solitary Bigfoot, competing with these technologically advanced fisherman, and giant coastal Brown Bears. Perhaps Bigfoot just waited for the salmon to die, and foraged rotting carrion.

http://www.orcas-island-rentals.com/deer-harbor-native-americans.html

Meh. Just get them damn fishing bigfoots to those rivers infested by Asian carps. Control of invasive species.

Wait... Zero impact most likely... But I guess one could make some money or have some fun out of footers along these lines.

"Yeah, I've seen them big apes dive-bombin' on the water! Damn big splash! Huge carps fly outa river right in to the hands of the smaller ones, female and pups!"

 

[rockinkt]

Theres a single type of primate relying mostly on fishes as protein sources: fishermen. Bigfoots would either be using hooks, lines, sinkers, spears, nets, fences, etc. or look and behave like say, otters... Yeah, yeah, I know about the claimed bigfoot - otter mythologic link.

Anyone wants to change bigfoots' looks by adding webbed feet and hands? Oh, don't forget the whiskers.

Maybe that's why Footers are always trying to claim that an Otter mask made by the First Nations people of the Pacific Coast of Canada is a squatch.

Oh, and I almost forgot the rock paintings of otters trying to be shoe-horned into being squatches as well.

Otters = Sasquatch. Correa could be on to something!!!

 

[MikeG]

One finger bone and one molar from two individuals, last time I checked.

And a toe bone too. Wiki:A tooth and toe bone belonging to different members of the same population have since been found.

What happened to them? They might have developed into Melanesians, in which case they're still with us today and we've got a rich record of what they were doing in prehistory right up to the present day.

If Denisovans never did die out and developed into modern Melanesians, ..........

From Wiki:
Analysis of the mitochondrial DNA (mtDNA) of the finger bone showed it to be genetically distinct from the mtDNAs of Neanderthals and modern humans.[4] Subsequent study of the nuclear genome from this specimen suggests this group shares a common origin with Neanderthals, they ranged from Siberia to Southeast Asia, and they lived among and interbred with the ancestors of some present-day modern humans, with up to 6% of the DNA of Melanesians and Australian Aborigines deriving from Denisovans.[5][6] Similar analysis of a toe bone discovered in 2011 is underway

I have no idea how to interpret these figures, but surely if Denisovans developed into Melanesians there would be a higher figure for Denisovan DNA in Melanesians than 6%, wouldn't there?

Mike

 

[The Shrike]

^Well it's all in flux, Mike. I think John Hawkes says they're the progenitors of Melanesians, but it's not at all clear to me what that means and I don't think all the folks working on this agree with him.

 

[Jodie]

Mike- I think it's similar to what happened with the Neandertals, some blending with modern humans, the Denisovans and Neandertals died out, and this is what you have left. Or the alternative is this is what was left in common after the three branches split.

I'm reading this really good book called " How to Think like a Neandertal" by Thomas Wynn and Frederick Coolidge. The thing that struck me most was based on how their camps looked. They existed in small group numbers with a small range of about 7-10 miles that didn't overlap much because they let geographical barriers hinder travel. They limited themselves to large game and fish and there was no indication that they ever stored food. Back then humans had a huge range, ate pretty much anything and planned ahead, existed in large groups that overlapped with other groups through kinship ( roughly 350 square miles). The Neadertal were simply unprepared to deal with modern humans and their social network so they think it was one of many things that contributed to why they didn't survive and why more mingling didn't occur, if it did at all.

I don't think they have really found much yet to indicate anything about how the Denisovans lived.

 

[Resume]

Bigfoot and Bigfoot food. Funny thing, the monster ape/giant forest human is seldom ever seen actually eating. You would think that that activity would be the one activity it would be seen doing more than any other.

How to explain the food source? Seems that Meldrum has argued for fish/protein from rivers. Then, why do we not spot the Giganto/Homo erectus actually taking fish, and often, like we see bears?

Moneymaker has the squatch behaving like Cro-Magnon, working in teams to flush and ambush deer. Must be something he remembered from high-school biology class.

Coleman has made things less dramatic for the Apes in America by having them dine, wintertime, on the pika.

The pika: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVJuRgil0wQ

The pika, however, would be no help/food source for most Bigfoot, like the Wood Apes of Oklahoma.

It's clearly time for a bigfoot cookbook. Footie as celebrity chef . . . I like it, I like it a lot.

 

[Sonny2]

There's only so many ways you can make pancakes and tossed wild pig.