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So, Cain is better than Bill Clinton.

JoeTheJuggler said:
Take care of business.
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Thanks. Brain isn't functioning today.

JoeTheJuggler said:
Presumably, in this context, that means the ability to settle sexual harassment allegations with a confidentiality agreement is admirable and shows that he can manage the problems that face whoever is in the office of president (global warming, high unemployment, gridlocked Congress, Israel/Palestine, etc.)

I really really hope this isn't the criterion Bill Thompson uses in casting his vote.
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Thats the only context that he has given us so I have to assume he is applauding Cain's ability to mistreat women with zero personal repercussions.

Unless Bill can provide an example of how Cain has used his stunning ability to "TCB" for anything other than his only sexual satisfaction like I asked.

Of all the things that both men have accomplished its bizarre this is the bar that has been set for comparing them...
 
NotJesus said:
He certainly attempted to, which is as far as Cain has got (or will get, I hope and believe).
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True enough. Upchurch's tongue-in-cheek applause for GOP "improvement" assumes the Romney-Cain ticket I was hypothesizing.
 
Biscuit said:
Of all the things that both men have accomplished its bizarre this is the bar that has been set for comparing them...
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As I said, I really do hope that isn't the criterion Bill Thompson uses in casting his vote.

HOWEVER, even damning Cain with faint praise is premature. Clinton withstood serious allegations (even active lawsuits) during his political career. He won major elections in the face of these things. Cain has yet to win any political office, and he has yet to survive (politically) his first round of sexual harassment allegations. So I'm not sure how good he is at TCB anyway. (It's really different in politics than it is in the restaurant industry!)
 
A caller to Diane Rehm's roundup show this morning said he was leaning towards Cain as he thought he was being railroaded by the media.
True or not, how does this affect his qualification?

The logical processes some folks use elude me at times.
 
Bill Thompson said:
But now that you mention it, isn't everyone better...
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I didn't vote for him and I don't like his ethics. But, and aside from the fact that the question is vague to the point of being almost meaningless, I can comfortably say no.

...and more respectable than Bill Clinton?
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Arguable and requires consideration of a number of variables. I don't respect him as a person. I respect the hell out of him as a politician and I can tell you that his opponents did also.
 
Brainster said:
I'm not sure if the current field has all the same marital background as in 2008, but Romney came up with a pretty good quip that year, noting that for all the talk of plural marriage among Mormons, he was the only GOP candidate who'd only been married once.

BTW, the assumption among those in the know is that Cain's problems with sexual harassment lawsuits was leaked by Perry's campaign.

Either that or the Jews.
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The Jews need a Republican nominee that is loyal to Israel. They need a candidate with a proven track record of loyalty and support. They would prefer someone from Congress. Romney and Cain would not be considered reliable. Ron Paul would be considered hostile since he would end foreign aid. Perry has visited Israel ten times and was their favorite for awhile until his debate performances and drunken sideshow.

That leaves Bachmann, Gingrich, and Santorum. All are fanatical supporters of Israel. Of these I think Gingrich and Santorum are acceptable to the Israelis.

Gingrich is moving up in the polls.
 
JoeTheJuggler said:
Romney-Cain?
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I can see the reasoning but I don't think it is going to happen. First, Romney is a button-down kinda guy. Last thing he wants is a loose cannon on the ticket behind whom he has to keep cleaning up messes. (gawd, what an awkward sentence; ya know what I mean).

Second, Cain's ego is massive. I'm not sure he'd want to play second fiddle. He, like Palin, will figure he might well have more power as an outsider and he certainly will make gobs more money as a gadfly.
 
MaGZ said:
The Jews need a Republican nominee that is loyal to Israel.
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I heard that at the meeting they unanimously (as is customary for Jews) agreed to support Ron Paul. Perhaps they don't really understand what it is that they need. I'm not a Jew but I'll attend the next meeting and tell them.
 
Biscuit said:
Thats the only context that he has given us so I have to assume he is applauding Cain's ability to mistreat women with zero personal repercussions.
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Actually, the vibes I´m getting from the far right are that, since the accusations are against their latest Republican super star, they must self-evidently be false, and Cain´s skill is in dealing with them in the quickest and cheapest way imaginable.
 
SezMe said:
I can see the reasoning but I don't think it is going to happen. First, Romney is a button-down kinda guy. Last thing he wants is a loose cannon on the ticket behind whom he has to keep cleaning up messes. (gawd, what an awkward sentence; ya know what I mean).
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I agree.

OTOH, the last thing McCain needed was a dreadfully inexperienced running mate with all sorts of unresolved political baggage and a tendency to embarrass herself in TV interviews. (Isn't "maverick" just politispeak for "loose cannon"?) Apparently the desire to find an ultra-conservative without a Y chromosome overrode all those considerations.
 
Chaos said:
Actually, the vibes I´m getting from the far right are that, since the accusations are against their latest Republican super star, they must self-evidently be false, and Cain´s skill is in dealing with them in the quickest and cheapest way imaginable.
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Even if the allegations are false, it remains to be seen whether Cain has done any better than Clinton at dealing with them.

See above. Cain has yet to win ANY political election. Clinton survived or (TCB) for some time as Governor, and won two presidential elections. If Cain thinks this issue has been dealt with once and for all, he's in for a rude awakening. The settlement might have ended matters if he stayed in the private sector.
 
leftysergeant said:
Pizza dude can't even keep his lies straight for a whole day. Could he have kept quiet about what was going on even as he prepared to screw up ObL's day the way that Obama did? I doubt it. The man has too big an ego.

I think that the women should just go ahead and make their statement and dare this drongo to do something about it. He already screwed up by calling them liars.
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I like how lefty skips across a subject kind of like how someone can skip a rock across the surface of a pond.

If a legal matter is settled, for legal purposes, it is just as good as not having happened at all.

The fact that the media keeps asking him about it shows to me that the media is clueless. The fact that leftists are making an issue about it shows me that they are cluelss...

No one knows what really happened (for now). There is a gag order. We know that the woman continued to work at the company afterwards. It could be that the woman was wrong. No one knows. But the issue is settled.

Once again, that makes him better than Clinton.

Notice that the media are wanting to dig this up again and magically bring life to it. Compare this to when John Edwards was sleeping with a mistress while campaigning and the press knew about it and kept it quiet because he was their guy.

To the lefties, it is not a matter of right vs wrong. It is all just a political game to them.
 
Travis said:
You think Romney's opinion on marriage is somehow invalid because of something Joseph Smith did?
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Is there something that the FDA should be aware of that creates fuzzy logic?

No, i don't think Romney's opinion on marriage is somehow invalid because of something Joseph Smith did.
 
geni said:
Quite a lot of people did. Given the extremely limited millitary forces availible to the Rwandan goverment of the time pretty much any nation with a fairly solid army or individual or group with the ability to hire merceneries could have interveneaned with a reasonable chance of sucess as long as they could get their forces through Tanzania.
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Naw Uh.
 
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