Smallville

[NullPointerException]

wtf?

I dunno what you guys are watching but I think you read too much into it. Clarks father is supposed to be a traditional honest bumpkin while his wife is the knowledgable but secure wife who doesn't.

I watch the show regularly and never picked up on the fact that the farm was organic, heck I never picked up on the fact that it had anything but cattle.

 

[Zep]

Re: Re: Smallville

Okay, I'm a comic fan, so I'm probably biased.

However, this is no different than anything you'd see in Buffy except that Buffy was much better written. And acted. And directed. And etc....

The thing with any science-fiction/fantasy show like this is that you go in with a certain level of suspension of disbelief. It's been a while since I've been able to watch the show, but they seem to be going for a very simplified view of "good" and "evil", which in part, has pretty much always been apart of the Superman mythos. If you want complexity, you go to Batman (post mid-1980's). If you want strong character development, you go to Spiderman.

Anyway, that this version of Superman is kind of new age-y and over-simple isn't really contrary to what "Superman" is. Just be thankful you never read (I'm assuming) Superman in the 1960-1970's. You wanna talk junk science! Smallville is a science text book in comparison.

<h1>You mean Superman is NOT real!???</h1>

 

[Quasi]

Yes, I know, I think my brain is now wired to pick up on this stuff. I saw that the farm was organic in episode 2 when they went to the virtually deserted farmers market and Clark pushes the nail in with his finger. The sign said "Kent Farms Organic Produce." Many forms of propaganda are subtle, for example the media constantly showing african americans arrested for violent crimes, or jokes people tell to eachother about ethnicities etc. We laugh, but when we see something similar in real life you give looks to eachother like "see!" I actually worked with a girl who believed that virtually all banks and univerities were run by Jews. She could not name one when challenged. Further, this nonsense i targeted to children and teens because adults are unlikely to change their beliefs. When they then go out and read information from naturopaths or Whole Foods reading material it will seem true, as they have already been exposed to it. This is my problem. There are no groups out there claiming to sell cryptonite as a cure for cancer, or claiming they can weave spider webs, or that they have a lasso of truth and an invisible jet, but there are people claiming the synthetic fertilizer industry is evil and that organic foods are more healthy and disease preventative. So here, people in my generation and younger are wasting their money on junk, and the illusion is supplied in part by shows like this.

 

[PygmyPlaidGiraffe]

Yes, I know, I think my brain is now wired to pick up on this stuff. I saw that the farm was organic in episode 2 when they went to the virtually deserted farmers market and Clark pushes

.... snipped


preventative. So here, people in my generation and younger are wasting their money on junk, and the illusion is supplied in part by shows like this.

all right so what are you trying to say?


Kids are so impressionable that when they watch a show where a teen does something extraordinary like
pushing in a nail with his thumb
or running 3000 times faster than an Olympic 100m sprinter,
or survives a point blank discharge of a shot gun without a scratch,
or walks through 3500 degree flames,
kids are going to accept all the other premisi in the show because they have accepted the premise that Clark Kent can do these extraordinary things? Your line of reasoning is evading me. Please explain.

 

[thaiboxerken]

While the show is purely fiction, it does give typical, pop-culture messages. It would be great to see a show where skepticism is a value that's portrayed as useful for a change.

 

[thaiboxerken]

all right so what are you trying to say?


Kids are so impressionable that when they watch a show where ....

No, but the other pop-culture that is depicted in the show will sway kids.. like "organic" foods and the like. Kids understand the extreme fictions (superstrength, bulletproof..etc.) but not the subtle fiction (10% of the brain is only used) and etc. The show also tends to send out a message that skepticism is useful on rare occasion.

 

[Ratman_tf]

While the show is purely fiction, it does give typical, pop-culture messages. It would be great to see a show where skepticism is a value that's portrayed as useful for a change.

I agree, but I don't think a show about a human looking alien who can fly under his own power and shoot heat beams out of his eyes would be a good venue for such.

 

[Quasi]

all right so what are you trying to say?


Kids are so impressionable that when they watch a show where a teen does something extraordinary like
pushing in a nail with his thumb
or running 3000 times faster than an Olympic 100m sprinter,
or survives a point blank discharge of a shot gun without a scratch,
or walks through 3500 degree flames,
kids are going to accept all the other premisi in the show because they have accepted the premise that Clark Kent can do these extraordinary things? Your line of reasoning is evading me. Please explain.

Taibox beat me to it. The reason why all of these parties (new age, intelligent design, coke, pepsi, etc.) want to be involved in the education of children and teens is because they are much more suceptible to marketing. By falsely representing cult beliefs (organic foods, naturopathy, etc.) on Smallville, it will make these kids give a lot more credit to the silly naturopath in Whole Foods B&C. They will then spend many times more than the food is worth because they think it is "fair traded" or "envoronmentaly friendly." This is blatant propaganda. As stated before, with these issues it is irresponsible for the media to portray what is clearly a scam in such a light, if not criminal. But no, the FCC and media are pointing the finger at Janet Jacksons nipple instead. When did lying become such a virtue in the US? We truly live in the second gilded age.

 

[TheBoyPaj]

Why do heroes who run super-fast always look like they take normal-length runing strides? Wouldn't they really put a foot down every 400 feet or so instead? They should be taking one stride to my 200!

You're assuming their stride rate is the same as ours. They're taking lots of human-length strides in a fraction of the time. Kind of like Benny Hill being chased by buxom women.