• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

Settler Terrorism Continues

E.J.Armstrong

Illuminator
E
Joined
Jan 4, 2002
Messages
3,806
'...Officials believe arsonists broke into the mosque in Lubban al-Sharqiya, near Nablus, and set it on fire using paper.
Palestinian leader Mahmoud Abbas has accused Jewish settlers of starting the fire, warning the attack could jeopardise peace talks due to begin. ...'

from

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/8664663.stm

Terrorism only seems to be terrorism in the apartheid state of Israel when one side commits it. Why is that?
 
There you go again, posting facts, missing a golden opportunity to blame the evil Jews.
 
Thunder said:
its not terrorism..if Jews do it.
Click to expand...
The story has a link to an accusation. Who did what, now?
despite a police announcement that it had not been torched.
Click to expand...
Even more ???
A West Bank mosque which was gutted by fire on Monday was most probably attacked by arsonists, Israeli fire-fighters say.
Click to expand...
More info as story unfolds ...


DR
 
Last edited:
I have to ask the OPer and those who think like him:

What are you doing to ensure that the Palestinians are given their fair shake? Are you actively engaged and doing everything you possibly can to help Palestine? Or are you simply interested in Jew/Israel bashing? Unless you're doing everything you can to help the Palestinians (I'm not talking about buying them guns or funding Hezbollah, either), you need to just stop. If you think posting anonymously on an internet board is helping Palestine, you are sadly mistaken. If you are doing something (a big something) then aces to you!
 
Darth Rotor said:
More info as story unfolds ...
DR
Click to expand...

translation: "when right-wing Jews might be involved in an act of terrorism, we must wait for all the facts to come in first before we lay blame. we must NEVER rush to judgement. anything else, is bordering on a blood-libel. "
 
So let's see:

1). Police investigation reports it's probably an electrical short.

2). Jewish settler Rabbi and other community leaders join the condolences and call for coexistence, declaring openly -- just to remove any doubt -- that Judaism opposes arson of mosques.

"Conclusion" by the usual gang:

It's arson anyway, the police is lying, and it's all the evil settlers' fault and a coverup, because they don't want to call it terrorism when Jews do it.

Never mind that they have not the slightest evidence for any police "coverup".

Never mind that when Jews did such acts in the past, they most definitely were called "terrorists" -- by the media and the courts and the public at large, starting from the fringe group known as "TNT" ("Terror neged terror" -- terror vs. terror) in the early 80s to the Kach activists arrested as "involved in terrorism" in the early 90s to, for example, the "Jewish terrorist" who was uncovered a few months ago as a serial killer of a dozen Palestinians over 10-15 years.

Never mind, indeed, that when some months ago a mosque was in fact torched it was prominently reported -- and condemned -- as "terrorism" in all major Israeli newspapers, settlers' newspapers included.

Gee. Somehow the police forgot to "cover up" that time, and everybody in Israel, the settlers themselves included, forgot that "it isn't terrorism when Jews do it".

But there's use using logic, dealing with those who care nothing for logic, or for common sense, or for facts, and whose only goal is smearing the Jews.

Can we move this thread to conspiracy theories, please?
 
Catch these bastards who did it, throw them in prison.....hopefully with some of the Palestinian terrorists so they can have some nice cage fights :D Oh yeah, and sorry to pre-empt this argument of double standards when it comes with settler terrorism. Even though I would use the word terror lightly in this case since this really isn't a bombing/murder spree etc.

As for this thwarting talks? There aren't any talks, no proximity, no indirect that I know of. Legacy of Arafat continues.

Even though I don't agree with every position of Silvan Shalom, I think in this case he's spot on:

'Talks doomed due to Arafat's legacy'
 
Last edited:
Thunder said:
translation: "when right-wing Jews might be involved in an act of terrorism, we must wait for all the facts to come in first before we lay blame. we must NEVER rush to judgement. anything else, is bordering on a blood-libel. "
Click to expand...

Parky, there was conflicting info being offered in the opening four posts: that there was arson, that there was a fire ... but given that the firefighters suspect arson, per the report, that's the good way to bet.

Who set the fire? Make your own guesses. When (hopefully) the cops catch the perps, you'll see if you guessed right.

EJ assumes a party right out of the box. And you lap it up. Quelle surprise.

DR
 
Parky is annoyed that -- can you believe it? -- some people think one has to actually wait for evidence and not rush to judgment before blaming the Jews of some crime.

In other words, he's annoyed that some people actually think Jews should be treated with the same standard everybody else deserves.

How unfair!

I think I'll just blame any unsolved crime on Black people from now on. You know, just for fun.
 
its too bad that the benefit of the doubt you guys give to right-wing Jews, is never afforded to Muslims.

i wonder..why is this?
 
Skeptic said:
Parky is annoyed that -- can you believe it? -- some people think one has to actually wait for evidence and not rush to judgment before blaming the Jews of some crime.
Click to expand...

Actually, he´s annoyed that Jews are the only ones certain people grant this priviledge to. Palestinians, Europeans and Democrats are guilty and evil without any actual crime happening.
 
Perhaps you can show where this is actually the case? As in real world occurrances. Strange, a Jew cannot be a European and/or a democrat either....

Same call for evidence to support Parky's notion as well. But yet again, that's usually a standard request in claims he makes in all the threads he comments in...
 
IN FM the definition of a "troll" comes up from time to time. A very useful definition is someone who starts a provocative thread short of facts and never contributes to that thread again.
 
themusicteacher said:
I have to ask the OPer and those who think like him:

What are you doing to ensure that the Palestinians are given their fair shake? Are you actively engaged and doing everything you possibly can to help Palestine? Or are you simply interested in Jew/Israel bashing? Unless you're doing everything you can to help the Palestinians (I'm not talking about buying them guns or funding Hezbollah, either), you need to just stop. If you think posting anonymously on an internet board is helping Palestine, you are sadly mistaken. If you are doing something (a big something) then aces to you!
Click to expand...
You won't be getting a response from the OP. His version of this forum only allows him to start topics, he can't reply in them.

Pip pip.
 
Last edited:
Skeptic said:
Just check the posts on the "Time Square Bomber", for example, and you'll see that's not true.
Click to expand...

Sorry about quoting myself, but to add: I think the real reason for the anger is that he starts about 200 "evil Israel" threads a month, and the vast majority of them, at least, when checked, turn out to be anywhere between "misinterpretation" to "just plain wrong".

So it is no wonder he wants to be cut some slack re: appropriateness of blaming people for no reason, and the only way to get any sort of "legitimacy" for that is the tu quoque "defense".

But even if others did blame non-Jews for no reason it would no excuse, and besides, they do so far less often than the original poster blames Jews for no reason.
 
Jews cannot be terrorists...or even settlers in their own land. The Jews have liberated the Land of Israel from centuries of Arab occupation.

All who accuse Jews or Israel of racism or terrorism are simply anti-Semites.

As it was written in the book "The Myth of the Jewish Race", due to our history of persecution .....we are incapable of racism.
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.

Back
Top Bottom