Merko
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The words 'ridiculed', 'disgraced' or even 'prostituted' would seem more natural to me. But never mind, it's no big thing.Was I wrong to describe him as "acclaimed"? He is indeed acclaimed, isn't he?
Ok. I didn't think you would. I wouldn't use the word like that.If you were to describe Chomsky as "acclaimed" I wouldn't take issue with that. Chomsky is acclaimed. Heck, I'll go ahead and describe Chomsky, Buchanan, Fukuyama, Boron and Zakaria as all people who are "acclaimed".
Can't see that I did. I derided Fukuyama for being neoconservative, and aside from a way to anticipate upcoming spin from the Bush administration, I don't find much use for him.Was it really necessary to try to deride me (falsely) as a neoconservative because I happened to agree with Fukuyama on a single point?
Good, then we are in agreement.You can't see why it would matter that Chavez' nationalization program is likely to drive the management of Venezuelan oil from the country, requiring him to appoint less experienced people? Surely you can see the risks. I'm not saying they are insurmountable.
Mexico was corrupt before that, corruption of the oil business was a natural and inevitable consequence. I'm living in a completely corrupted country right now, and I certainly would not advocate nationalisations here under the current circumstances. Venezuela is as far as I know not in that position, I think they can do it.Mexico eventually recovered after its petroleum nationalization program did the same thing, although even today, Mexico's petroleum company is rife with corruption.
Competent management has little to do with who owns the company. A privately owned corporation can be hurt by corruption and mismanagement just like a public one. It is usually just as disastrous.Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that. I happen to believe that competent management adds value to any enterprise, even oil production.
Or by developing other industries, which Chavez promises to do, and is apparently attempting to do. Will it be successful? I have no idea, but I see no direct causal link between having oil and not developing an industry.I don't think I made that argument. The problem is that countries that are largely dependent on one natural resource rarely develop other industries to cushion fluctuations. Saudi Arabia manages to weather it by running enormous surpluses. But Chavez has promised all sorts of spending that could only be financed by high oil prices.
I would call it 'cultural exchange'. Ideas spread, you know. Chavismo, for what it is, contains policy, not just words. Marxism spread the idea of workers' political power. Leninism spread the idea of suppression of dissent. If Chavismo turns as arguing a high level of freedom of speech, then that idea may spread to Cuba, because Cuba is naturally more open to take ideas from Chavez, than, say, any US president regardless of party, because of history.I'm not sure how one goes about "teaching Venezuela a lesson of how to refrain from high-level Kleptocracy". Nor am I certain one can "export values liek freedom of speech"
I don't think that has ever happened, or ever can happen. In obscenely rare cases, military intervention may not be enough to hinder the cultural transfer of values such as freedom of speech. Usually it blocks all chances of such influence.I've never seen it done absent military force (and even then I think it's obscenely rare).
I think we will find that they'll be a bloc in many international venues, such as the UN, and possibly in trade negotiations (though at the moment they are split on that issue).As for whether they act like a bloc? They act like allies, as they should. They have common interests, common approaches to problems and common perceived enemies (namely, Bush). But some sort of monolithic bloc? No.
Yes, it has not done them much good. The man steals all the light, and the policy may develop into something entirely different than what gained him populary in the first place.Heck, Latin America is a studied history in a procession of personality cults. Simon Bolivar, Juan Peron, Che Guevara, Fidel Castro, Chavez... I doubt Chavez will be the worst or the last.
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