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Secret Rulers of the World CT videos

fullflavormenthol said:
We're not the same Ron, except that we both have too much free time. The real difference is that I try to contribute something to this forum, while you merely troll. Now trolling can be fine so long as you attempt to rise to the challenge. Unfortunatly you refuse to. I don't care. I made my statement here, and pointed out the crazy in the video in question.
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You fail to debate the nitty -gritty of the video.
 
ronpaulisright said:
You fail to debate the nitty -gritty of the video.
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No. In fact reading through this thread it is easy for anyone to see that you are dodging every question about the video. The "nitty-gritty" of the video is everything you refuse to discuss.

Okay. Bring up something. What do you want to debate? A specific point from the video Ron. Lets debate it.
 
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ronpaulisright said:
The television is a weapon of mass deception.
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For all the spectators here is a link to that part of the series. Let's watch it and then follow along in the debate.



RPiR's claim is very vague and too "buzz-wordy". Can we have him better describe his claim or should FFM just debunk whats in the video? In other words please be more descriptive so you can't later say you don't believe what is in the documentary but rather "parts of it are compelling".

Thanks
 
Open Blinded said:
For all the spectators here is a link to that part of the series. Let's watch it and then follow along in the debate.



RPiR's claim is very vague and too "buzz-wordy". Can we have him better describe his claim or should FFM just debunk whats in the video? In other words please be more descriptive so you can't later say you don't believe what is in the documentary but rather "parts of it are compelling".

Thanks
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So according to this narrator with a very annoying voice, the media is paid off to distract the masses from the Patriot Act? Every media outlet covered it's passage.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpa...25753C1A9679C8B63&scp=4&sq=patriot+act&st=nyt

http://news.cnet.com/2100-1023-275026.html
 
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Hey FFM, I found this interesting. This is a quote from carl cameron and it brings up a lot of questions about the jooooos you love so much,

"There is no indication that the Israelis were involved in the 9/11 attacks, but investigators suspect that the Israelis may have gathered intelligence about the attacks in advance, and not shared it. A highly placed investigator said there are 'tie-ins.' But when asked for details, he flatly refused to describe them, saying, 'evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information.'"

Bear in mind this is from a four part investigative report, which was on December, 17th, 2001.

here's where I got this quote from.

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=2298
 
ronpaulisright said:
Hey FFM, I found this interesting. This is a quote from carl cameron and it brings up a lot of questions about the jooooos you love so much,

"There is no indication that the Israelis were involved in the 9/11 attacks, but investigators suspect that the Israelis may have gathered intelligence about the attacks in advance, and not shared it. A highly placed investigator said there are 'tie-ins.' But when asked for details, he flatly refused to describe them, saying, 'evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information.'"

Bear in mind this is from a four part investigative report, which was on December, 17th, 2001.

here's where I got this quote from.

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=2298
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Boy the smell of anti-semitism is permeating in the air.
 
ronpaulisright said:
Hey FFM, I found this interesting. This is a quote from carl cameron and it brings up a lot of questions about the jooooos you love so much,

"There is no indication that the Israelis were involved in the 9/11 attacks, but investigators suspect that the Israelis may have gathered intelligence about the attacks in advance, and not shared it. A highly placed investigator said there are 'tie-ins.' But when asked for details, he flatly refused to describe them, saying, 'evidence linking these Israelis to 9/11 is classified. I cannot tell you about evidence that has been gathered. It's classified information.'"

Bear in mind this is from a four part investigative report, which was on December, 17th, 2001.

here's where I got this quote from.

http://www.antiwar.com/justin/?articleid=2298
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Yes, interesting quote, but when you follow it back to its source it is less than spectacular. The issue at hand is that Israel, like many class A countries has spies in the United States and around the world. Having spies in the United States is a crime, and so the information Israel provided to us prior to the 9-11 attacks was non-specific and done so to protect the identities of their operatives.

Now it is wrong to have spies in another country who is supposed to be your ally; but nothing in the actual story would point to Israeli involvement in 9-11. In fact, providing any intelligence to us regarding the activities of terrorist cells in the U.S. put their own agents at risk; so I don't see terroristic malice on the part of Israel.

The reason the information would remain classified is the same reason information relating to Chinese spies in this country is classified. You don't go around telling everyone information was stolen, what the information was, and how they got it. Got it?

I would recommend reading parts 1-4, before latching on to a single quote.

EDIT: I bolded part of this to underline a clearly anti-semitic tone in your statement.
 
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fullflavormenthol said:
Oh, it is central to the movie. "You see if you divide the word Viking into two parts you get VI King. Well VI is 6 in Roman numerals, and King would symbolize the 6 Kings of the tribe of Dan." Yeah this is the insanity of the movie.
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*needs to close jaw manually as has lost all muscular control*

Wow, and if your vikings are spelled wikings or vikingr what does that mean, how about if you had northmen or norseman or Northumbrians clever people those saxons to come up with a language to describe people from the Vik fjord area which after successive invasions and language revisions, allowed it to persist so giving away that dark secret.
 
If you're a baby born without blood on your hands, there's probably something seriously wrong with mom. :eek:
 
ronpaulisright said:
If you are a jew that means you practice a religion that thinks you're a chosen people.
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Just like any other religious group then.

Just like when you are born in america you are part of a nationality that believed they had to kill men, women, and children (native americans)
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Just like any other country on the planet then, (not neccesarily the native 'mirkins) but my country of birth (England) has done its fair share of Killin' and a-Slaughterin' too

My point is, just because you didn't know, does not mean that you are not part of it. IF you are a practicing jew you, whether you know it or not, are supporting the notion that you have a god-given right to a piece of land that does not belong to you.
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Well that's just silly superstition, Gods own county is Yorkshire everyone knows that (And I am a Cheshire Lad), Jesus was a fast bowler

Israel is suppressing the progress of the Arab world. They don't want Iran to have nuclear power? That's absurd. They're not gonna attack Israel. They'll attack mars before they attack Israel. (unprovoked)
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*Ok I think I missed the tongue in cheek switch somewhere*

You can add a lot of other nations that signed the Non proliferation Treaty don't want to see any further nuclear powers in the world, especially in a historically unstable theatre, I mean there is no wah a Muslim state would want to attack a non-muslim state is there

This neoconservative ******** of pre-emptive war has to stop.

I don't give a rats-ass about Israel, I really mean that. Just like I don't care about ANY of the other countries.
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if You don't give a rats arse about any other country, why are you bothered about the wars there, or any foreign action, just get a Permanant Marker out and colour in all the areas outside of US terratorial waters black, or right, Here be tarrifs atheists dragons.

Nothing like a good solid xenophobic isolationist beliefs to show people super-happy-funtime.
 
ronpaulisright said:
The television is a weapon of mass deception.
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All media is, so what - as long as you know it and don't fall for any of the crap, bfd. Those who do fall for it would if it came from their priest/preacher/witchdoctor/shaman/grandmother/older sister/etc. Again, bfd with no fix.:)
 
ronpaulisright said:
If you are born american, you are born with blood on your hands.
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Same if you are German/French/Spanish/British/Iraqui/Iranian/Saudi/etc. ad inf. Another bfd.

OR, if you go by my standards, you have to do it on your own to have blood on your hands. If I have it, my conscience is/will be clear re:how and why - and that is much more important than it's presence.
 
ronpaulisright said:
If you are born american, you are born with blood on your hands.
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You can say that about any nation on earth.
Something you would have known if you had any knowledge of history...which you have proven time and time again that you don't.
 
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ronpaulisright said:
In their holy book it states that they are the chosen people that have a god-given right to a land that is not theirs.
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You seem to forget that Jerusalem, a part of Israel has landmarks which are sacred to both Islamic AND Jewish faith, AND that both Islam and the Israelites have been it that region for centuries...
I find a stunning hypocrisy among you people... it urks that Israel has a policy that you must be of jewish descent to automatically be granted a guarantee to citizenship in a small speck of land in the middle east, yet the same general rule applies for citizenship in the arab countries which possess a significantly larger area of the region. Needless to say, issues still need to be resolved with the Palestinian people, however, anti-semitism is not how I cope with these things...

ronpaulisright said:
If you are born american, you are born with blood on your hands.
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Speak to yourself in the mirror, every country has blood on their hands from some past war or event... It's hypocritical of you to single any one country out. I don't know what expectations you have for an 'ideal' country, but no such things exists in a world where nothing is perfect.
 
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