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"Science is bad and must be destroyed"

Psi Baba said:
"If every trace of any single religion were wiped out and nothing were passed on, it would never be created exactly that way again. There might be some other nonsense in its place, but not that exact nonsense. If all of science were wiped out, it would still be true, and someone would find a way to figure it all out again." -- Penn Jillette
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As I was reading that, I thought "Huh, I've heard that before." Then I saw the name. Of course I did.
 
Craig B said:
They reattributed it.
Cecil John Rhodes and other white settlers refused to believe that Great Zimbabwe was built by Africans. Rhodes employed a miner called Theodore Bent to dig up bits of Great Zimbabwe in order to prove that it had been built by either Arabs or Phoenicians.​
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From the wiki- "Among the edifice's most prominent features were its walls, some of which were over five metres high. " Is 16' high stacks of rocks the pinnacle of Sub-Saharan Architecture? Not in the same league as the Taj Mahal. Or the Pyramids.
 
casebro said:
From the wiki- "Among the edifice's most prominent features were its walls, some of which were over five metres high. " Is 16' high stacks of rocks the pinnacle of Sub-Saharan Architecture? Not in the same league as the Taj Mahal. Or the Pyramids.
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Did you miss the fact that the Europeans of the 19th century apparently couldn't even accept the idea that sub-Saharan Africans couldn't even produce monument that you deem not-that-great?
 
While I can believe that someone could be so enthusiastically wrong, I somewhat question if that is for real and not a performance.
In any case there's no danger she's going to lead a movement to squash Science and "Western" Technology, not when she's dependent on it.
 
Apathia said:
While I can believe that someone could be so enthusiastically wrong, I somewhat question if that is for real and not a performance.
In any case there's no danger she's going to lead a movement to squash Science and "Western" Technology, not when she's dependent on it.
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Don't be too sure. The contradiction really only stirs more anger. What's happening on the ground is all about emotion, and we all know how reason comes second in that race.
 
casebro said:
From the wiki- "Among the edifice's most prominent features were its walls, some of which were over five metres high. " Is 16' high stacks of rocks the pinnacle of Sub-Saharan Architecture? Not in the same league as the Taj Mahal. Or the Pyramids.
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So this means "not the same as the pyramids? Come off it.
And I guess the colonials tore down all that beautiful sub-saharan architecture too​
Now it's, OK there was some, contrary to the beliefs of Cecil Rhodes; but it wasn't as great as the pyramids. What is this anyway, some kind of anti-black racism based on architecture?
 
Donn said:
Don't be too sure. The contradiction really only stirs more anger. What's happening on the ground is all about emotion, and we all know how reason comes second in that race.
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For just a moment I read that as 'black people', instead of 'contest'...:boxedin:
 
Craig B said:
Now it's, OK there was some, contrary to the beliefs of Cecil Rhodes; but it wasn't as great as the pyramids.
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Let's not forget that the Egyptians stopped building pyramids because ultimately, pyramids failed at their purpose. Amazing structures, but the culture that produced them ultimately judged them to be unsuccessful and stopped building them.

As a demonstration of technical and organizational know-how, the pyramids were and are impressive. However, the failure to build pyramids might be a demonstration of better decision making.
 
John Nowak said:
As a demonstration of technical and organizational know-how, the pyramids were and are impressive. However, the failure to build pyramids might be a demonstration of better decision making.
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What a neat thought. I'm glad we keep you around here!
 
I can are a valid critique of science as a tool of colonialism--especially in the historical context of South Africa--but it isn't the critique that the speaker is making.
 
mijopaalmc said:
I can are a valid critique of science as a tool of colonialism--especially in the historical context of South Africa--but it isn't the critique that the speaker is making.
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Yes, while her basic premise of the effect of colonialism having been bad for Africans, is true. The focus of her anger is woefully misplaced.

At least three of those on the panel are wearing corrective lenses - science
A few are wearing blue jeans. - invented by a white guy and a fashion that began in countries that were predominately white.
In addition to the cotton blue jeans, all of them are wearing cotton or cotton/polyester blend tee-shirts. Is there an industry, in at least the USA, which characterizes the domination of Africans by whites in historical terms, more than picking cotton?
Then of course the only way this video could be recorded,,,, science.
The only way could be distributed to the world,,, science .

Her grasp of what science is, is also wildly uninformed, if I understand her example. ( hard to make out but it sounded like she assumed that equations dealing with gravity were just plucked from thin air.
She may be an intelligent person but her whole position is patently stupid and ignorant.

What did the guy in the back say that prompted the demand for an apology? I could not make it out.
I did notice that he was told that he had agreed to the rules, one of which was the sharing of opinions. Apparently as long as he wasn't sharing his opinion that is.
 
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