What if that "thing" was not a monolithic structure. Comparing that "thing" to pizza boxes, lemons, and sponges would be so ridiculous, it'd make us smile if not laugh.
Just make a model of a structure, where a part C of it crushes the remainder, part A fixed on ground, when part C is dropped on part A by gravity alone. Part C is 1/10th of part A. You'll win a prize, if you can do it. The structure consists of elements fixed to one another (no Houses of Cards or domino bricks, etc), i.e. part C must break the connections of the elements or the elements themselves of part A without breaking its own connections of elements or the part C elements. Have a try!
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NobbyNobbs
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Actually, no, it will accelerate positively until it reaches the center of the Earth and will then accelerate negatively until it stops at the height above Earth surface that it began at, but in China (or whatever), then it will reverse. This assumes no friction (so we are all dead).
With friction, it will stop a lot sooner ( and we will be alive. Which I personally prefer.)
/derail/
Would the rotation of the Earth cause it to carve out a curved path, rather than a straight diameter? And if so, wouldn't it continue to carve a wider and wider path?
/end derail/
Uh, you want to actually address the point?
Monolitic structure or not, it is your choise. Monolitic structure is uniform density throughout - there are plenty of those!
Can a piece C of monolitic structure crush down a bigger piece of same structure A due to gravity alone? Anwer: No. Both pieces will be affected at contact, &c, &c. No crush down of A by C.
Same for a structure with two parts C and A of various elements, strong and weak, connected to one another + air in between. Drop C on A. Both parts are affected at contact, the strong elements will probably damage the weak elements, &c, &c, but no crush down of A by C!!
If you are of different opinion, pls provide an example.
Yes, unless it begain at one pole and was dropped so carefully it would come out at the other.
Of course, if it's density was such that that could happen, there would be other interesting effects not covered.
And nothing here considers the interesting points of how it was produced and transported to it's dropping point and prevented from motion until that time. I suspect a lot of really interesting technology would need to be in place before we could try this!!
Yes, unless it begain at one pole and was dropped so carefully it would come out at the other.
Of course, if it's density was such that that could happen, there would be other interesting effects not covered.
And nothing here considers the interesting points of how it was produced and transported to it's dropping point and prevented from motion until that time. I suspect a lot of really interesting technology would need to be in place before we could try this!!
Dropping a rigid object on the ground so that it ends up at centre of earth is the latest NWO gravity drilling technology secret being developed. Thus, no drilling, just dropping! Many oil drilling companies object so the technology will be banned by Obama soon. When politicians get involved in science anything may happen.
BenBurch
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So, Heiwa, Lets say I have a nice 5-layer strawberry-filled, buttercreme-frosted yellow-cake wedding cake stack.
By your logic, if I pick up the top two layers, and drop them on the remaining layers, there is just no way the stack collapses, are you going to go on the record saying that?
Because if you are going to say that, I can show you evidence that it can collapse, even though that cake would have stood had the top two layers been gently applied.
And if you are not going to say that, you have denied your whole claim of one thing not being able to collapse another.
Which I have to say is about the most mendacious and feckless claim I have ever heard any putative engineer advance.
By your logic, if I pick up the top two layers, and drop them on the remaining layers, there is just no way the stack collapses, are you going to go on the record saying that?
Because if you are going to say that, I can show you evidence that it can collapse, even though that cake would have stood had the top two layers been gently applied.
And if you are not going to say that, you have denied your whole claim of one thing not being able to collapse another.
Which I have to say is about the most mendacious and feckless claim I have ever heard any putative engineer advance.
Or possibly the most matter feckless mendacious claim ever made!
Thanks for asking. You have to read what I write: Upper structural part C being dropped on similar but bigger, structural part A cannot crush part A.
Re your wedding cake, yes, nice model for a Heiwa test; ensure that upper two layers, call it part C, have same structure as lower 3 layers, part A, and are carried by part A before drop! Thus, same amount of strawberries, butter cream-frost (sounds good!) in C and A, &c. Then release, lift and drop the two layers on the three layers. You will find that upper part C is probably damaged by lower part A and vice versa ... and that your wedding cake is a mess. But lower section of part A is undamaged = no crush down by C of A.
Are you getting married? Then test at wedding!
According NIST, Bazant & Co upper part C would remain undamaged during the test and then be destroyed in a crush-up. Pls, invite NIST, Bazant & Co to wedding + Heiwa test.
Note - normal wedding cake stacks have columns and floors built in, so that you can cut cakes at different levels (instead of dropping levels). Pls remove these before test!
BenBurch
Gatekeeper of The Left
Actually, the upper parts were LESS dense than the lower part that was crushed. They had no filling, and were SMALLER than the lower part. WOW was it a mess.
So was the marriage that resulted, or so I am told, but I can't blame that on the cake.
So, you lose. Sorry. Your idea does not stand up to The Cake Test™.
So was the marriage that resulted, or so I am told, but I can't blame that on the cake.
So, you lose. Sorry. Your idea does not stand up to The Cake Test™.
BenBurch
Gatekeeper of The Left
For the greater good. Just keep telling yourself that.
Ideas? Or nuts? Drop one nut C on 10 similar nuts A and see how 10 nuts A are crushed by supernut C. Anybody doing THAT will win a prize! Or top hats? Drop a top hat C on 10 top hats A and owners of top hats A may not be so happy if you manage to crush them. There's no business like the model show business. Female models around 20, though. Old, tired OCTists need not apply. Play with your sawdust-n-glue cubes
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The spirit of physics.
leftysergeant
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And where can we read about the Balzac tower?