Satan's Motivation

In the Islamic tradition, Satan loves God so much that there is no room in his heart for to love anything else. When God makes man and commands the angels to love his new, greater creation, Satan cannot: and so God throws him out. He is sustained in Hell by the memory of the echo of God's voice. And of course he hates mankind for coming between him and God.

The Christian version, where Satan rebels against God for sheer power, makes no sense at all. Why would he hate mankind? Why would he torture people that agreed with him and chose him as a ruler over God? Why would he rebel against God and try to sieze power in the first place - does he know something about this alleged omnipotence that we don't, or is he just plain stupid?

None of these religions can make God's actions coherent (why would God allow Satan to afflict the people he ordered Satan to exalt), but at least the Islamic version of Satan's character is coherent. Xianity melded the Arianistic (spelling?) idea of twin gods of good and evil into the Jewish idea of God and his chief prosecutor, without paying much attention to the background story.

As for the devil having to live up to his contract, this reflects the true spirit of Xianity. Consider that the Bible is often presented as a contract with mankind that God cannot break. Those words on paper are capable of binding and controlling supernatural beings of immense power. Hey, sounds just like a magic spell, doesn't it? Not a coincidence at all.
 
marxist2 said:
It's not kook speak, it's perfect english. I do not even know what you mean by "kook speak". I mean what I said. Atheists are all pedophiles, and they use their gibberish to get kids to come to them.
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Obviously, english is not your native tounge. You have way too many spelling and grammatical errors to be a native speaker, writer and reader. My grammar and spelling aren't perfect, but at lease people can understand the gist of most of my sentences.

You are so stupid atheists that you think that there is a satan.
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Most posts to this thread are about the nature of satan. If you weren't such subliterate kook you would understand. Athiests don't believe in god or satan. Most skeptics I know are athiests.

Satan is a myth, along with all that skepticism that you peddle about so that you can cohere children onto abusive relationships.
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Skepticism is defined as a method, attitude and doctrine in the dictionary, it cannot be myth, unless it was part of a morallity tale written down in a big book long ago. Cohere isn't a word used very much in modern english, and I don't think you are using it correctly. Priests and other religious whackos are the ones making news for physically and sexually abusing children. And the bible endorses physical child abuse.

So what is your point and what is your native tounge?
 
GrapeJ713 said:

Most posts to this thread are about the nature of satan. If you weren't such subliterate kook you would understand. Athiests don't believe in god or satan. Most skeptics I know are athiests.
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Many theists want to assert that even atheists believe in "god" and "satan" if we talk about them. Strange, though, that if someone talks to them about how cool the XMEN are that they don't assert those people believe that the XMEN exist. Hmmm.
 
Holy Exclamation, Batman!!

thaiboxerken said:


Many theists want to assert that even atheists believe in "god" and "satan" if we talk about them. Strange, though, that if someone talks to them about how cool the XMEN are that they don't assert those people believe that the XMEN exist. Hmmm.
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By Jupiter, but the Boy Wonder had a really weird religion.
I remember him saying "Holy flypaper, Batman!"

The man who would be King (Sean Connery and Michael Caine): "God's sainted trousers!"
(I never understood that one)

There must be more, including the ubiquitous "Holy Tish" (Or somesuch)
 
marxist2
that you can cohere children
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You mean "coerce," you semi-literate, self-absorbed, wretchedly lonely, stupid little man.

Just trying to be helpful.

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marxist2 said:
I don't need to prove anything to you atheist. I know it, and everyone who knows anything knows it.
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Move over Interesting Ian, because we have this month's Bill Hoyt's Logic Award winner!

You've managed to create more logical fallacies than sentences.

1. To say "everyone who knows anything knows it" is an appeal to popularity! Just because it's widely held to be true doesn't mean it is.

2. Using "everyone who knows anything" to support your claim is calling on an anonymous authority!

3. Your refusal to provide proof to the atheist on the account of your ad hominem accusation that they already know it is attacking the person!

4. By denying evidence to support your statement, you are committing a fallacy of exclusion!

5. Your argument that because you and everybody else knows it, it must be true is saying that knowledge causes something to be true. That is the wrong direction, because things that are knowable are not necessarily true, and that which is true remains so whether or not you know it. Truth does not come from knowedge, knowledge is gained from truth.
 
Yahzi said:
marxist2

You mean "coerce," you semi-literate, self-absorbed, wretchedly lonely, stupid little man.

Just trying to be helpful.
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It's an actual word, I looked it up.

Main Entry: co·here
Pronunciation: kO-'hir
Function: verb
Inflected Form(s): co·hered; co·her·ing
Etymology: Latin cohaerEre, from co- + haerEre to stick
Date: 1598
intransitive senses
1 a : to hold together firmly as parts of the same mass; broadly : STICK, ADHERE b : to display cohesion of plant parts
2 : to hold together as a mass of parts that cohere
3 a : to become united in principles, relationships, or interests b : to be logically or aesthetically consistent
transitive senses : to cause (parts or components) to cohere
synonym see STICK

It's just an old word not used in modern english much. That is why I think he's not a native english speaker. Sometimes when you learn a language and look up a word in a foreign language to english dictionary you might choose a word that looks right but isn't used much.
 
So pedophiles stick children to one another? With what, Krazy Glue?
 
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