Sam Danner

[troy in wv]

Call me what you wish Troy. But I will not tolerate Flaming. You are the kind of people that I would like to meet. You are the next state over. Just keep up your Games and besides I like Friutcake.

Was that a threat you paranoid imbecile?

Troy, read your membership agreement. Abusing other posters is not permitted.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: tim

 

[geggy]

Danner must be a government shill. On 9/11 he must have had access to the same live feed George W. Bush allegedly had:

Which is why bush ought to be a suspect. If he lied twice about having seen the first plane hit on tv before entering the classroom, then what other things did he lie about. If it was true that he did see the first hit on tv, then how did they know what was coming?

 

[Oliver]

No reason to be sorry ya fruitcake.

Welcome on board, Troy in wv.
Do you and american793 know each other?

 

[Arus808]

sorry american, but we have to take the words of the other eyewitnesses who say they saw a commercial airplane that crashed in to the pentagon.

what you may have seen, under the chaose and confusion, is swayed by your own bias, and you were probably prone to "suggestion" as with everyone who witnesses a crime.

Sorry that you were aprt of the whole ordeal back 5 years ago, but your testimony to several people and one by your son, contradicts what you have been claiming.


Oh there was evidence of the plane there. Parts of the fuselage, the equipment (landing gear) wheel hubs, engine and the DNA of the people who were aboard

I dont know, but its kind of hard to "plant" that evidence so soon after the crash, doncha think?

 

[geggy]

1. December 4, 2001

QUESTION: One thing, Mr. President, is that you have no idea how much you've done for this country, and another thing is that how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?

BUSH: Well... (APPLAUSE)

Thank you, Jordan (ph).

Well, Jordan (ph), you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident." (Bush Knew)

But I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about it, and I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my chief who was sitting over here walked in and said, "A second plane has hit the tower. America's under attack."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0112/04/se.04.html

2. January 5, 2002

"I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on..."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020105-3.html

 

[Oliver]

1. December 4, 2001

QUESTION: One thing, Mr. President, is that you have no idea how much you've done for this country, and another thing is that how did you feel when you heard about the terrorist attack?

BUSH: Well... (APPLAUSE)

Thank you, Jordan (ph).

Well, Jordan (ph), you're not going to believe what state I was in when I heard about the terrorist attack. I was in Florida. And my chief of staff, Andy Card -- actually I was in a classroom talking about a reading program that works. And I was sitting outside the classroom waiting to go in, and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident." (Bush Knew)

But I was whisked off there -- I didn't have much time to think about it, and I was sitting in the classroom, and Andy Card, my chief who was sitting over here walked in and said, "A second plane has hit the tower. America's under attack."

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0112/04/se.04.html

2. January 5, 2002

"I was sitting there, and my Chief of Staff -- well, first of all, when we walked into the classroom, I had seen this plane fly into the first building. There was a TV set on..."

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/01/20020105-3.html

I never understood the "Bush saw first crash" argument.
If i see a "crash" somewhere i actually use to say "i saw
that crash" - even if i didn´t see the crash itself but the
results. Isn´t this way of describing a crash the same in
english?

 

[troy in wv]

Welcome on board, Troy in wv.
Do you and american793 know each other?

No. I do not know that dingbat.

I do know it takes approximately 6.5 hours to get to the Ritz-Carlton in Pentagon City from my home here in WV.

I was there last May. It took about 7.5 hours because I couldn't find the stinkin hotel. I drove back and forth past Reagan International a few times and that Sheraton hotel several times.

I won't be in Pentagon City this summer. Bad scheduling. But hopefully I'll be there in the summer of '08. Maybe American would like to drop by the Ritz to meet my acquaintance.

 

[Oliver]

No. I do not know that dingbat.

I do know it takes approximately 6.5 hours to get to the Ritz-Carlton in Pentagon City from my home here in WV.

Oh, i thought you know him because your immediate attack,
which is pretty unusual in here and contradicts with the
boardrules. You may take a look to this thread to get a
feeling for it:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69943&page=28http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=69943&page=10

Cheers,
Oliver

 

[DavidJames]

I will be glad to tell the whole story.

Then tell it already. Oh, and be sure to add some actual facts and evidence.

 

[CptColumbo]

To all of you Aircraft Experts out there. There was no Boeing 757-300 and not one piece of Lugage not one body part,in fact not one Body. I am about to rule out the Gobal Hawk because that is as close to what I saw. The issue about not enough Mass is correct but if the thing were coverted in a cruise missle with enough cordite it could make a huge punch in the structure. Maccy I hope that you are reading this along with Oliver

Bolding mine.

Getting back to the initial subject. How does a lack of luggage equal a Global Hawk converted into a cruise missile? How were the parts of this Global Hawk removed and those of a Boeing 767 placed on the sight without anyone noticing? Are you sure about the luggage thing? You have already been shown to be mistaken about the bodies, what's your source for the luggage accusation?

I personally have trouble taking the military expertise of someone who doesn't know how to spell missile, not to mention luggage.

 

[apathoid]

To all of you Aircraft Experts out there. There was no Boeing 757-300 and not one piece of Lugage not one body part,in fact not one Body. I am about to rule out the Gobal Hawk because that is as close to what I saw. The issue about not enough Mass is correct but if the thing were coverted in a cruise missle with enough cordite it could make a huge punch in the structure. Maccy I hope that you are reading this along with Oliver

So you are an expert at identifying aircraft? If I were to give you a quiz on airplanes IDs, could you idenify most of the planes??

BTW - There was a plenty of 757 specific wreckage and body parts at the Pentagon.
BTWII - Cruise missiles dont use cordite, they use small jet engines for propulsion and typically 1 ton of HE for their munitions.
BTWIII- Cruise missiles are smaller tha Global Hawks.

BTWIV - Welcome to the forum.

ETA: Also, the aircraft was a 757-200, not a -300. Northwest and Continental are the only US carriers to operate the 757-300. You claim to be knowledgable in aviation and this is a major, major mistake...

 

[uk_dave]

Welcome to the Sam Danner thread..... as directed by luis bunuel.

 

[Lisa Simpson]

A general reminder to everyone. Please do not use insults to argue your point. Do not use personal attacks and most certainly do not threaten anyone. Please stick to the Membership Agreement.

Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Lisa Simpson

 

[ConspiRaider]

To all of you Aircraft Experts out there. There was no Boeing 757-300 and not one piece of Lugage not one body part,in fact not one Body. I am about to rule out the Gobal Hawk because that is as close to what I saw. The issue about not enough Mass is correct but if the thing were coverted in a cruise missle with enough cordite it could make a huge punch in the structure. Maccy I hope that you are reading this along with Oliver

Technically you are correct, AM793, and welcome to the board.

There was no Boeing 757-300. In fact, it was a Boeing 757-200.

The following is courtesy of the excellent 911myths.com site. It is an analysis by 2 aerospace engineers of engine parts found in the Pentagon wreckage. Extremely compelling.

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/conspiracy/q0265.shtml

 

[jaydeehess]

Which is why bush ought to be a suspect. If he lied twice about having seen the first plane hit on tv before entering the classroom, then what other things did he lie about. If it was true that he did see the first hit on tv, then how did they know what was coming?

It was said in sarcasm geggy. Danner has stated he watched the first plane hit as well. Is he to be taken to task for such a statement? If not then why not since you obviously wish to bash the idiot GWB with this error?

Now, back on track...

Am 793, you have now ststed several times that you want to get the story out. You have said it to several specific persons in this thread but so far, like Lyte trip and his stupendous 'evidence', that is all you have done.

Post your story, do it now, don't just say you're gonna do it, just do it.

You have also stated

Alright Gentlemen What are the questions concerning me? There is alot of Lying and Deception going on here about me

but it has been shown by others that your name barely comes up and only as an aside.

Specifically then what "Lying and Deception going on here " about you are you referring to?

 

[Oliver]

*snip* ...and I saw an airplane hit the tower -- the TV was obviously on, and I use to fly myself, and I said, "There's one terrible pilot." And I said, "It must have been a horrible accident." (Bush Knew)

I never understood the "Bush saw first crash" argument.
If i see a "crash" somewhere i actually use to say "i saw
that crash" - even if i didn´t see the crash itself but the
"results". Isn´t this way of describing a crash the same in
english?

Geggy?

ETA: It does not help you to run away - i will at least follow
you for the rest of your life asking that until i get an answer.

 

[Alt+F4]

There was no Boeing 757-300 and not one piece of Lugage not one body part,in fact not one Body.

Hello. If this statement is true then please explain how a team of more thatn 100 forensic specialists and others identified 184 of the 189 people who died in the Pentagon attack?

 

[beachnut]

To all of you Aircraft Experts out there. There was no Boeing 757-300 and not one piece of Lugage not one body part,in fact not one Body. I am about to rule out the Gobal Hawk because that is as close to what I saw. The issue about not enough Mass is correct but if the thing were coverted in a cruise missle with enough cordite it could make a huge punch in the structure. Maccy I hope that you are reading this along with Oliver

Now you have to explain the DNA that matched the people that boarded the plane that smashed into the Pentagon were they were found, the engine was from a 757; the FDR was from a 757;

So you were allowed to go all around the wreakage? You spent days inside the pentagon. Tell me who you are? Do you work at the Pentagon?

All the people and luggage hit at 500 mph; you should have joined the Air Force so you could see the results of humands and luggage doing 500 mph riding tons of alumninum and fuel into anything!

Start talking; like I was walking along drinking tons of....

 

[Hutch]

Sam first of all welcome to the Forum.

Second, I echo jaydeehees, please post your story as many of us are either blocked from the LC Forum or are not familiar with your story. Be advised that many are not pre-disposed to accept what you have said so far without something a little more evidence-driven that you have provided to date.

and troy, welcome, but Lisa was being nice seeing that you contributed nothing but ad homs and insults in your first posts...I would recommend that you contribute something substantial on the next one..

IMHO as always.

 

[Alt+F4]

you should have joined the Air Force so you could see the results of humands and luggage doing 500 mph riding tons of alumninum and fuel into anything!

Actually, some of the photographs of the victims became part of the evidence in the Zacarias Moussaoui trial. I won't post them here because they are quite disturbing, but for those with a strong stomach:

http://www.vaed.uscourts.gov/notablecases/moussaoui/exhibits/