Rigged ***2008*** Elections

[Oliver]

We may argue about the term rigged - but I think you get
my point without doing so ... So what do people in here think
about the next elections?

Will they be rigged again since Diebold and Friends are still
running the party?

I know that officials assure that everything will be fine in
the next elections - *lol* - just like they said in 2000 and
2004. But seriously: Did something change besides Diebold's
Voting machine names?

Or do we get another good laughter:

 

[gtc]

The 2008 elections will be just as rigged as the 2004 and 2000 elections.

 

[Giggywig]

We may argue about the term rigged - but I think you get
my point without doing so ... So what do people in here think
about the next elections?

Will they be rigged again since Diebold and Friends are still
running the party?

I know that officials assure that everything will be fine in
the next elections - *lol* - just like they said in 2000 and
2004. But seriously: Did something change besides Diebold's
Voting machine names?

Or do we get another good laughter:

So... how do they get all the Diebold techs to go along with this nefarious scheme? Do they pay them all off?

 

[marksman]

Too busy to educate yourself about the Constitution by reading the link I gave you but not so busy to post conspiracy paranoia on the forum, eh?

 

[Ziggurat]

Or do we get another good laughter:

That depends - will you keep posting?

 

[Giggywig]

Hey, is this a preemptive "Ron Paul didn't lose because he lacks grassroots support but because they stole the election" excuse?

 

[KoihimeNakamura]

sounds like it.
(I should note Palast would makea case for this if he.. provided sources.)

 

[Oliver]

The 2008 elections will be just as rigged as the 2004 and 2000 elections.

Why? Is there nobody who checks the machines?

So... how do they get all the Diebold techs to go along with this nefarious scheme? Do they pay them all off?

Huh? A simple string within the code and the fraud is perfect.
So what Diebold techs are you referring to besides the programmer?

Too busy to educate yourself about the Constitution by reading the link I gave you but not so busy to post conspiracy paranoia on the forum, eh?

It's no conspiracy theory:
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=diebold+election&search=Search

• Liste von Problemen mit Diebold Wahlgeräten
• Diebold Election Systems bei Disinfopedia
• Blackbox Voting
• Untersuchung der Universität Princeton zur Manipulierbarkeit von Diebold-Wahlmaschinen
• Manipulation von Diebold-Wahlmaschienen durch Schlüsselkopien möglich
• Diebold Voting Machine Owner Committed To Give Votes To Bush in 2004
• E-Vote Machines Face Audit

That depends - will you keep posting?

I try but I'm pretty busy with other things...

Hey, is this a preemptive "Ron Paul didn't lose because he lacks grassroots support but because they stole the election" excuse?

Well, if Ron doesn't win I blame the Media and the Giuliani-Fans
in here. But the Game is not over yet...

 

[Giggywig]

Huh? A simple string within the code and the fraud is perfect.

Really? Do you have evidence that "simple string" is in the code?

So what Diebold techs are you referring to besides the programmer?

Programmers. Plus the people all around the country that actually fix the machines if they break.

Well, if Ron doesn't win I blame the Media and the Giuliani-Fans in here. But the Game is not over yet...

No chance he could lose because he's not the best candidate?

 

[webfusion]

Would it be fair to say that more people in the USA vote with their text-message cellphones for the TV contestants on "Dancing With The Stars" than actually bother to make their way to the polling places on Election Day?

 

[fuelair]

The 2008 elections will be just as rigged as the 2004 and 2000 elections.

You should seperate the two since you are pretty likely trying to imply no rigging in 2000. Plenty of evidence for 2000 (I saw the police activity in my area as noted in many parts of Florida which I cannot directly vouch for).

 

[zenotter]

Would it be fair to say that more people in the USA vote with their text-message cellphones for the TV contestants on "Dancing With The Stars" than actually bother to make their way to the polling places on Election Day?

Wow, running an election by text only would be SUPERB!

 

[webfusion]

Wow, running an election by text only would be SUPERB!

Not only would it be superb, but the charge for each call would just be $1.49 (plus standard text-messaging rates from your cell-provider) and you would be limited to only voting a maximum of four times.

 

[zenotter]

It'd be traceable anyway... until the phone corporations get bought out... ai yah.

'Scuse me, didn't mean to sound so realist there, but I do love the thought of texting my vote! "Must be 18 and registered to play" would be the only nuisance.

 

[Undesired Walrus]

I try but I'm pretty busy with other things...

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Right, so, maybe you can clear up our wonder at what you are actually doing to help Ron Paul win. I'd be in admiration of you if you flew over to the states to campaign for him, but I don't think you are doing that, so... what are you doing?

Giuliani fans in here

I hope Rudy (Or Obama) wins Oliver, does that make me a bad person? If so, why?

 

[Oliver]

Right, so, maybe you can clear up our wonder at what you are actually doing to help Ron Paul win. I'd be in admiration of you if you flew over to the states to campaign for him, but I don't think you are doing that, so... what are you doing?

I hope Rudy (Or Obama) wins Oliver, does that make me a bad person? If so, why?

I can't answer your questions - because they wouldn't
have anything to do with conspiracy theories...

 

[leftysergeant]

The machines are only a part of the problem. But that is a big one. There is no way to verify the results recorded on them. and they are not invulnerable to hacking by unscrupulous elections workers. Howard Dean has demonstrated that.

Real votes are on paper ballots and can be recounted by hand.

Canada seems never to have a problem. Why should we?

Beyond the unreliabilty of the machines, there is the conflict of interest in several states. What happened in Ohio is criminal, to my thinking. What on earth was a member of Bush's election campaign organization doing running elections?

There is no way to prove that the elections in Ohio were conducted in an ethical manner. Blackwell deliberately knocked people off the rolls with arbitrary directives that would make Catbert of the Dilbert comic strip green with envy.

 

[peteweaver]

Hilary will be the next President anyway, the republicans have had two terms, and now its time for the Democrats... Hilary is respected abroad, and at the moment the USA has an image problem abroad.

 

[Furi]

the Gubmint still gets in

The 2008 elections will be just as rigged as the 2004 and 2000 elections.

and just like those elections, the president will be a assclown despised by the many, The most vocal internet campaingers calling foul that their personal corrupt power mad bafoon didn't get in, possibly starting brand new CTs about how he was got at, bribed with wheat, rigged elections, fluoride powered mind control devices converted voting habits,

and also the winning supporters will also be throwing teddy out of the pram because the winner turned out to have lied to win an election , and isn't going to *delete as applicable from below,

Legalise pot/tougher crimes for posession
outlaw ID and non secular teachings, promote state funded faith schooling
pro choice/life
Antagonise the middle east situation/Antagonise the middle east situation.
choke on a pretzel/hump the temp
Alienate the Grass Root Support/Alienate the Grass Root Support
tighten restrictions on freedom/tighten restrictions on freedom
loosen some previous freedom tighteners as a concession to the new ones being introduced/... your getting the idea now.

why not vote for an independant that needs encourageing support, they prob won't get in, but you can always say indignantly in 2 years time "Well I didn't vote for <powermadhamtoucher>"

US Election time is great, I just put the most antagonistic candidates campain slogan and gif in my sig, got to a political forum and make harmless replies whilst sitting on the fence, and letting the Rabid dogs tear themselves limb from limb, as neither side can agree on whether I am friend or foe, So lets shoot him and apologise later (bit like the US armed force policy )

=^..^=

 

[eeyore1954]

Oliver

Huh? A simple string within the code and the fraud is perfect.
So what Diebold techs are you referring to besides the programmer?

I don't know the mechanics involved in a voting machine but I did run quality control for a software company and I think you would be amazed at the amount of testing that is done on software.

What "simple string" do you think can be added to the code without there being a good chance of it being discovered?

I am not claiming it would be impossible. But i would find it hard to believe it is as easy as adding a "simple string".