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edge said:
Because as I stated something that didn't happen would have died off by now, like the belief of Odin.
I was showing you mainly, how illogical your beliefs are.
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Belief in some ancient deities lasted _far_ longer than the Christ myth.

E.g., the cult of Ra and most other Egyptian gods is attested continuously for over 3000 years straight, while the Christ myth started with Paul less than 2000 years ago.

E.g., Buddhism is still a practiced religion, and beats Christianity by over 500 years. So it must be true if it didn't die out by now, huh?

E.g., Hinduism is over 3500 years old, beating not just Christianity but even Judaism for longevity. I guess that must be the one true religion then, huh?

Edit: though, of course, Japanese animism then beats them all by millennia, as evidence of continuous animistic religion stretches waay back into the Jomon era, circa 14,000 BC to 300 BC. So if it didn't die out in all that time... ;)
 
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HansMustermann said:
Belief in some ancient deities lasted _far_ longer than the Christ myth.

E.g., the cult of Ra and most other Egyptian gods is attested continuously for over 3000 years straight, while the Christ myth started with Paul less than 2000 years ago.

E.g., Buddhism is still a practiced religion, and beats Christianity by over 500 years. So it must be true if it didn't die out by now, huh?

E.g., Hinduism is over 3500 years old, beating not just Christianity but even Judaism for longevity. I guess that must be the one true religion then, huh?

Edit: though, of course, Japanese animism then beats them all by millennia, as evidence of continuous animistic religion stretches waay back into the Jomon era, circa 14,000 BC to 300 BC. So if it didn't die out in all that time... ;)
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But yet many of those believers including Muslims are converting to Christianity.
We are talking about Christianity and the fact that it would not have continued unless everything about it was true, no one who is sane would continue to teach and follow it if it was a lie let alone after running from the accusers come back and face a similar death as the leader (Jesus), did...
Do you see any new heavens gate cult still up and running?
How about Jim Jones anybody taking up his cross?
Pass the Cool Aid Honey...I mean really if the resurrection plus the ascension didn't happen do you think Christianity would still be alive?
It's so obvious, that you obviously can't see this or refuse to.

What is going on in the mid-east right now?
People are sick of lies.
How many in China are switching?
 
edge said:
But yet many of those believers including Muslims are converting to Christianity.
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And a comparable number of Christians are converting to Islam. It's still retarded BS as a criterion. People converting to something doesn't make it true, regardless of whether it's a religion, or believing in Homeopathy, or in Uri Geller's tricks. More people started to believe in spiritism after Fox sisters' scam than convert to Christianity in a comparable period, but that doesn't make it true.

edge said:
We are talking about Christianity and the fact that it would not have continued unless everything about it was true,
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You still don't answer to the point that Buddhism continued longer than that, and Shintoism continued for 4-5 times longer than Christianity. Does that make everything about them true?

edge said:
no one who is sane would continue to teach and follow it if it was a lie
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Right, so you just called Christians insane. Your words, not mine :p

edge said:
let alone after running from the accusers come back and face a similar death as the leader (Jesus), did...
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People died for all sorts of bogus beliefs. Christianity is nothing special there.

edge said:
Do you see any new heavens gate cult still up and running?
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Even skipping over the part that your BS fixation with the present moment as the only one that counts is incredibly BS and irrelevant, the fact is that other religions do spring up new communities all the time. Does that make them true too?

edge said:
How about Jim Jones anybody taking up his cross?
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So?

edge said:
Pass the Cool Aid Honey...I mean really if the resurrection plus the ascension didn't happen do you think Christianity would still be alive?
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Let me paraphrase that right back at you: If the Buddha's revelation weren't true, would Buddhism still be alive?

edge said:
It's so obvious, that you obviously can't see this or refuse to.
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What would make it obvious would be some evidence, not broken logic and fallacies like the above.

edge said:
What is going on in the mid-east right now?
People are sick of lies.
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... so they're trying to get some Islamists in power, not converting to Christianity. So even skipping past the fact that it's a non-sequitur anyway, it's incredibly dumb to bring _that_ as evidence for your Jesus delusions.

edge said:
How many in China are switching?
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Incredibly few, actually. Christians are about 3-4% of the population, and not seeing much growth per year.

How many in America are switching to Atheism each year? If converting to something proves it, then wouldn't that prove Atheism right?
 
edge said:
Because as I stated something that didn't happen would have died off by now, like the belief of Odin.
I was showing you mainly, how illogical your beliefs are.
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Ah, so you're Hindu. After all, that belief system is even older than Christianity and has far from died out, holding nearly a billion believers to this day.
 
A. Grow half of your own food.
B. Remove all of your waste.
C. Share every shelter.
D. Nurture all living things on earth and in space.
E. Teach love to everyone.
F. Remove the unloving to a separate shelter.
G. Live like a tamed species.
H. Never live with wild species.
I. Never incorporate bigger than your family.
J. Choose paper over plastic.
 
TmoonII said:
A. Grow half of your own food.
B. Remove all of your waste.
C. Share every shelter.
D. Nurture all living things on earth and in space.
E. Teach love to everyone.
F. Remove the unloving to a separate shelter.
G. Live like a tamed species.
H. Never live with wild species.
I. Never incorporate bigger than your family.
J. Choose paper over plastic.
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Some one metioned the real position of tolet paper when you place it on the roll, I have to agree with that.
Over the top and to the front and not aginst the wall.:D
 
In Sudan, more than one million have converted since 2000, and some 5 million have become Christians since the early 1990s, despite a radical Islamic regime and an on-going genocide that has killed more than 200,000. Seminaries are being held in caves to train pastors to shepherd the huge numbers of people coming to Christ. Why such a dramatic spiritual awakening? "People have seen real Islam, and they want Jesus instead," one Sudanese evangelical leader said.
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taken from here:
http://www.islam-watch.org/LeavingIslam/Muslims2Christianity.htm

So what do we get from the other way around?
Most Muslims hide their conversion and Protestant ministers do their utmost to protect new converts. It is estimated that every year in the world some six million Muslims convert to Christianity.

The Muezzin call to prayer. But here in France it is no longer reaching all Muslim ears.

Around 15,000 Muslims each year are converting to Christianity - around 10,000 to Catholicism and 5,000 to Protestantism....

Many Muslims in France hide their conversion but the trend is continuing. World wide around six million Muslims a year convert to Christianity
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From here:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/02/muslims-converting-to-christianity-by-the-thousands-in-france.html


Show me what you get the other way around, I can't find much on that.
 
IMST said:
Ah, so you're Hindu. After all, that belief system is even older than Christianity and has far from died out, holding nearly a billion believers to this day.
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They know there is a soul and that is the only truth that is there, I've checked it out.
I doesn't matter how old it is but rather, is it true, does it do anything.
It is lacking much of the truth.
People will be fooled and many will continue to be fooled.
Nothing new there?
You need to read the stats I posted in those links above.
The Muslims are the ones today that are seeing miracles.
That’s the other thing I found out when I goggled this.


There are only a few retards converting the other way around and trying to kill others today in the name of their religion here today even in the USA, but those guys are usually caught before they can harm us.
Most of us are sane enough to follow what Jesus taught.
Mainly love your neighbor, does that tell you to kill yourself with a bomb and others?
Get rid of the infidels?
We are all equal which is what our politics insists also.
That's why they are sick of it, look around in the world today not 3000 years ago what is their basis for conversions, it’s in those links.
It comes down to the truth will set you free, free to do what?
Live in peace?
 
edge said:
taken from here:
http://www.islam-watch.org/LeavingIslam/Muslims2Christianity.htm

So what do we get from the other way around?

From here:
http://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/02/muslims-converting-to-christianity-by-the-thousands-in-france.html


Show me what you get the other way around, I can't find much on that.
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So basically it's some completely unverifiable claim? You just have to believe a bullcrap peddler that he knows something, but people are keeping it secret and you can't actually verify that claim? Heh.

Not to mention that it _still_ is a complete non-sequitur. People converting to X does not make X true. Period. Otherwise belief in Santa would be the truest of them all, as tens of millions of children each year are inducted in that belief.
 
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1. Don't break my heart, my achy-breaky heart
2. You can't hide your lyin eyes
3. Don't mess around with Jim
4. Hit the road, Jack, and dontcha come back, no more no more no more no more
5. Let it be
6. Love me do
7. Please please me
8. (Can't get no) satisfaction
9. Come as you are
10. Lola
 
RoboTimbo said:
edge, have you given up in defeat on the prayer issue?
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Dude your asking me to put God to the test.
It doesn't work that way.

I'm not here for that.
When he lets me know that I need to go out and do that, I will, when empowered to do so.

You are talking about the laying on of hands for healings.
I don't know of any adults with missing linbs let alone a child like that, so who would I direcet my prayer for?
I do pray in general terms for the all the people of the world.
Not just one, Or giving thanks.
I believe if and when he's ready to show that... he will, can you imagine the converstion rate if that was to be shown.
It's his will not mine.
Besides that you still wouldn't believe it if it did happen.
Would you?
 
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