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Rewrite the 10 commandments

I'd just get the class rules from a decent first grade (5-6 year olds) class. If you want to get a bunch of folks with very little impulse control and even less respect for one another to stay in line for at least a few hours each day... I would just have to defer to an expert. The teachers at this grade level might not have the best methods and ideas for social control in a completely chaotic environment; but damn these deities can get results while still managing to practice some of that infinite patience.


Another improvement with using some elementary class's rules over the commandments is that these rules are written in magic marker and can be rewritten if they're not working.
 
Thou shalt wash thine hands before eating
Thou shalt cook pork and ground beef to 160 degrees
Thou shalt cook steaks to no more than 145 lest thou be an abomination
Thou shalt cook poultry to 165 lest thou suffer the Hershey squirts
Thou shalt not suffer the loss of a limb because I am powerless to regrow it for thee
Thou shalt suffer a witch to live
Thou shalt invent the microscope so that thou wilt knowest what sickens thee
Thou shalt promote education for all thine brethren and sistren
Thou shalt not drive slowly in the fast lane
Thou shalt not solicit an abode where "No soliciting" is posted nor shall thou phone those on the "Do not call" list
Thou shalt turn off thy cell phone in the movie theater
 
Gravity, and the falling is in the way of twos. Lodestones are in the way of threes.

So why can't it be written?
 
1. I gave you a brain for a reason. Use it. Understand the burden of proof.

2. Do not assume I'm too retarded to say what I mean. If I say don't do something, don't assume I really meant everything else you wish it extended to.

3. I'm the same God who created a whole universe just because the sky looked boring at night without stars, and who very nearly drowned all life on Earth. And do you know how hard it was to drown the fish? I'm omnipotent. You're puny. Don't presume to defend me from "enemies of God", nor fight wars for me, nor pass notes to your neighbour for me. Trust me, if I ever want something done, I'm perfectly capable of it myself.

4. You will not name-drop me to justify inequality or injustice. You're all equal. I should know, I made you. No, I don't hate women, gays, blacks, infidels, the poor, or really anyone. And, see above, if I thought anyone is an offense unto me or a deviation from what I want, I could fix that problem myself.

5. Understand that rights and duties are social contracts. You can give yourselves as many or as little as you can agree on. Don't expect me to tell you not to kill or not to steal. If you need to name-drop me for rights, take this as my mandate to you to do so, but then see point #4 again: I didn't also give you a mandate to discriminate.
 
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[Has O'Reilly ran out of rhetoric and is now having to recycle garbage like "The secularists deplore [laws]. They want an open society where anything goes, including legalized drugs, any kind of abortion, euthanasia, gay marriage and explicit images and speech on the public airwaves."[/quote]

Garbage is exactlly what it would be if you had your way.

Piggy says, If I were God there would be no need for commandments because I would create things right to begin with.
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And how's that possible with out freewill?
Then how would you know someones heart without faith and freewill?
 
edge said:
And how's that possible with out freewill?
Then how would you know someones heart without faith and freewill?
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To anyone who's dabbled even superficially in programming, the above is so incredibly stupid, it's almost funny.

If I were to make a Sim City or The Sims game, how would I know what's in the head or "heart" of those little guys? I could write a log files, I could put icons (visible only to me) over each one's head, I could keep track of their actions in a database, etc. It wouldn't even occur that they'd need any kind of faith for me to know what's in their "heart".
 
edge said:
And how's that possible with out freewill?
Then how would you know someones heart without faith and freewill?
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If God's goal is to maximize the number of His worshipers while letting people have free will, He could simply do what He says He will do. In the Gospel of Luke Jesus says that if people pray, then their prayers will be answered - in fact if they tell a tree to be uprooted and to fly into the ocean, then it will be. If God actually did fling trees into the ocean every time someone asked for it, then He'd have all sorts of followers.

No mystery. No self-made irreversible laws to fret over. All He has to do is what He already said He would do.
 
1. Throw yourself off a very, very tall cliff.
2. Now that you're dead, you can't break any commandments, and you're going to make good fertilizer at the bottom of that cliff!
3. ?
4. Profit!
 
edge said:
And how's that possible with out freewill?
Then how would you know someones heart without faith and freewill?
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If I'm God, I don't have to give anyone or anything free will.

If I do give anything free will, then I will certainly not be concerned if they behave in the way that beings with free will should be expected to behave, much less try to change that fact by issuing commandments.

If I want my creatures to obey me, I will create them so that they obey me from the get-go. I'm God. I can make their brains so that they have a range of free will (because no one has infinite free will) that only extends to how I want them to behave.
 
HansMustermann said:
To anyone who's dabbled even superficially in programming, the above is so incredibly stupid, it's almost funny.

If I were to make a Sim City or The Sims game, how would I know what's in the head or "heart" of those little guys? I could write a log files, I could put icons (visible only to me) over each one's head, I could keep track of their actions in a database, etc. It wouldn't even occur that they'd need any kind of faith for me to know what's in their "heart".
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Your talking about a Game?

That's so incredibly stupid, I can't believe you used that.
 
Ladewig said:
If God's goal is to maximize the number of His worshipers while letting people have free will, He could simply do what He says He will do. In the Gospel of Luke Jesus says that if people pray, then their prayers will be answered - in fact if they tell a tree to be uprooted and to fly into the ocean, then it will be. If God actually did fling trees into the ocean every time someone asked for it, then He'd have all sorts of followers.

No mystery. No self-made irreversible laws to fret over. All He has to do is what He already said He would do.
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Sure if you are a believer not a blasphemer, Duh-Huh.
Do you answer your child’s every whim?
Or do you sustain them.
 
Piggy said:
If I'm God, I don't have to give anyone or anything free will.

If I do give anything free will, then I will certainly not be concerned if they behave in the way that beings with free will should be expected to behave, much less try to change that fact by issuing commandments.

If I want my creatures to obey me, I will create them so that they obey me from the get-go. I'm God. I can make their brains so that they have a range of free will (because no one has infinite free will) that only extends to how I want them to behave.
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So it would be your laws that would make them obey your will.
Those would be robotic type laws?
What of rebellion?
Say your laws suck?:eek:
 
edge said:
So it would be your laws that would make them obey your will.
Those would be robotic type laws?
What of rebellion?
Say your laws suck?:eek:
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Ok, say my laws suck. Then it sucks to be one of my creatures, doesn't it? Still good to be me, tho!

But no, I would not have to make robotic creatures. I could, but I would not have only that option.

For example, God didn't have to make us robotic in order for Him to enforce His will that we not travel back in time.

ETA: Be very careful here, edge, because you are on the verge of denying omnipotence to God.
 
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Piggy said:
Ok, say my laws suck. Then it sucks to be one of my creatures, doesn't it? Still good to be me, tho!

But no, I would not have to make robotic creatures. I could, but I would not have only that option.

For example, God didn't have to make us robotic in order for Him to enforce His will that we not travel back in time.

ETA: Be very careful here, edge, because you are on the verge of denying omnipotence to God.
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Let me ask you this Piggy do you believe that this life ends or continues?
 
Sledge said:
So go make a tree jump, believer.
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I do that with a chain saw, no need for prayer, I prayed to get the chain saw, funny how that works, because it's a rush especially when they jump off their stumps.
I got my Stihl.
 
edge said:
I do that with a chain saw, no need for prayer, I prayed to get the chain saw, funny how that works, because it's a rush especially when they jump off their stumps.
I got my Stihl.
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Yeah, funny how you could just pray for your god to do something that he said he'd do, but instead you take the more complicated option. It's as if you don't really think your god would come through for you. I wonder why that is?
 
edge said:
, I prayed to get the chain saw, funny how that works
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I prayed for my husband to stop hitting me, but I had to get divorced to make it stop. Funny how that works.

You get a chain saw, and I get silence.

Say, while you were praying for that chainsaw, do you suppose there might have been a little girl praying that her relative wouldn't molest her again, but he did, in spite of her prayers? Funny how that works, too.
 
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