• Quick note - the problem with Youtube videos not embedding on the forum appears to have been fixed, thanks to ZiprHead. If you do still see problems let me know.

remote reiki

That would depend on your teacher. I have never paid a penny for any of my levels.

(editied to correct spelling)

Then you're not an "official" Reiki practioner. Apparently that was one of their requirements. That you had to PAY for your attunements. Kind of like a karma concept. Give something to get something back etc.
 
Then you're not an "official" Reiki practioner. Apparently that was one of their requirements. That you had to PAY for your attunements. Kind of like a karma concept. Give something to get something back etc.
Let me see if I have this straight: You are shown a secret symbol of some sort and this enables you to heal people near and far but if you don't pay for the secret symbol it won't work? Is that the deal?
 
Yup thats the scam. Traditionally level 1 was around 50-150 bucks, I forget how much level 2 was but level 3 was on the order of 10k... If you weren't paying that much, then you weren't "officially" attuned. As for the symbols. Those were supposed to be the basic symbols. Someone apparently "channeled" more of em. Now you see why I don't particularly agree with everything taught in Reiki
 
Then you're not an "official" Reiki practioner. Apparently that was one of their requirements. That you had to PAY for your attunements. Kind of like a karma concept. Give something to get something back etc.


Untrue, I am "official". There is no requirement for the of payment of money. I think you may be talking about the reason given by some teachers FOR charging money. It's the old "you won't value what you don't pay for" concept and it does hold some validity as a general concept applied to how most people afix value to something, but has nothing to do with Reiki.

It is strictly between the teacher and the student if payment is required and what form that payment might take. In my case, my teacher said my having pain relief was her payment.
 
Let me see if I have this straight: You are shown a secret symbol of some sort and this enables you to heal people near and far but if you don't pay for the secret symbol it won't work? Is that the deal?

Yup thats the scam. Traditionally level 1 was around 50-150 bucks, I forget how much level 2 was but level 3 was on the order of 10k... If you weren't paying that much, then you weren't "officially" attuned. As for the symbols. Those were supposed to be the basic symbols. Someone apparently "channeled" more of em. Now you see why I don't particularly agree with everything taught in Reiki

If that has been your experince with Reiki practioners, I can see why you feel the way you do. The statements are not correct as far as Reiki is concerned but I don't doubt they were said by someone looking to make money.

In Usui Reiki, one is 'attuned' by a Master Teacher (level 4), who uses the original symbols to activate each level in the person. You can find the symbols on the web, they are no longer secret. The original four symbols are the only ones used in Usui Reiki, not the additions by new agers. Personally, I have seen the new ones and what they are supposed to do and I think they are cr*p, BS made up by Woos who didn't understand the original concept to begin with and need something extra to justify the money they are charging. If I believed in Hell, I would wish for a special corner just for them.

Here is my best explaination of the levels. Necessity will require I use words that some will take issue with as being WOO loaded. It can't be helped.
The first level symbol is basic healing energy. Level one can practice on themselves and others they can physically touch. The Second level adds the symbol for the ability to heal at a distance (this is one of the claims I am trying to confirm but have not yet had success) and a third symbol used for emotional healing. Level three learns one symbol, the Master Symbol which enhances the power of the others and is used as a meditation focus to increase ones ability to use the Reiki energy.

Each level needs to be activated by a Master's attunement, but there is no requirement for the payment of anything. As I understand it, originally Dr.Usui's widow is the one who founded the first families and the high Master fee was to keep out those not serious about the study required to attain the level. I personally think that attitude is BS and elitist, as does my teacher. Once you are a level four Master Teacher, you can do what you like. There is no dogma to follow and no bylaws to consider, hence my being at level three without paying money.

Unfortunately, I have found most of the Reiki practioners I have met to be charlitans who do not understand what it is supposed to be or how it is supposed to be used. I have found few, if any, who have put in the time required to study each level and practice it to a modicum of proficiency. They pay their money, take a short course, think they have it down and proudly proclaim they have added Reiki to their Crystal therapy and aura manipulation services. If I had run into these types when I was first exposed to Reiki, I would have left laughing instead of finding something that is interesting enough to devote my time to experimentation and evaluation.

I am not sorry I have put the time into studying this. I regularly use it to sucessfuly control chronic pain issues I have. If I get no further confirmation than that, it's been worth my time. It would be a wonderful bonus if it turns out I can reliably heal at a distance, but my track record so far is one out of three, so I can't claim any success there yet. :)

(edited because I kan't spelll :)
 
Last edited:
In Usui Reiki, one is 'attuned' by a Master Teacher (level 4), who uses the original symbols to activate each level in the person.
What exactly does the master do to "activate each level"? Is it some sort of secret handshake or incantation? Inquiring minds want to know.
 
Ernon apparently you are right. I looked it up and it was one of his original students that started charging the rediculous amounts for attunement. It also apparently wasn't necessary to charge the money.

Heres the link I found the info in which contradicted what my reiki teacher had said.

http://www.reiki.org/reikinews/reikin14.html

Fishbait, Reiki practitioners give you an attunement similar to unblocking a pathway in your brain to allow you to channel this "Reiki" energy. Not really sure what it does or supposedly does, but after the attunement you are supposed to be able to sense illness and cure people. I have had similar experiences like Ernon in mostly relieving pain, muscle ache etc, but I think I was always able to do this before I learned about Reiki and had the attunements.
 
Last edited:
What exactly does the master do to "activate each level"? Is it some sort of secret handshake or incantation? Inquiring minds want to know.

It's very much like a Reiki treatment, but with the Master 'imprinting' the symbols on you. She spent most of my attunements standing behind me with me seated in front, so I didn't have the opportunity to see what she was doing, but it involves using the Master Symbol.

Truth be told, I need to learn the full answer to your question to move up to the last level. I need to 'attune' a student through the levels to become level 4. I haven't taken the time to learn that next step yet, I'm still working on using the Master Symbol to get the distance one to work. ;)

The only secret handshake I know is the one for the Society of American Magicians, of which I have been a member for 18 years. I gave it to David Copperfield in the autograph line after a show. He returned it and spent a couple of minutes talking to me. It was very cool. :)
 
Ernon apparently you are right. I looked it up and it was one of his original students that started charging the rediculous amounts for attunement. It also apparently wasn't necessary to charge the money.

Heres the link I found the info in which contradicted what my reiki teacher had said.

http://www.reiki.org/reikinews/reikin14.html

I think you could ask 10 Reiki practioners and 9 would give wrong answers to basic questions. Even I only get partial credit, I thought it was his widow. :)

The link you provided is good. In his explainations you can see there are a lot of variations of Reiki being taught. To find a teacher still teaching only the Usui 'core' is difficult. They all change it to fit their understanding. For me, less is more. I simply discarded those portions of the teachings that to me were obviously added at a later time; you can usually tell by the choice of the words used. The basic idea is simple. I see no need to complicate it or load it up with new age verbs and circular explanations going no where.
 
Last edited:
Fishbait, Reiki practitioners give you an attunement similar to unblocking a pathway in your brain to allow you to channel this "Reiki" energy.
This tells me absolutly nothing. How is this "unblocking a pathway in your brain" done? What does the "master" do specifically? Is it like plumber snaking out a blocked pipe with a tool? I want to know how it is done. Does the master put his hands on your head and squeeze until the pathway pops open? Does he use tools or instruments? Does he light incense and chant? Does he throw clamshells at the rising sun? What does he physically do during the attunement?

Please be specific.
 
This tells me absolutly nothing. How is this "unblocking a pathway in your brain" done? What does the "master" do specifically? Is it like plumber snaking out a blocked pipe with a tool? I want to know how it is done. Does the master put his hands on your head and squeeze until the pathway pops open? Does he use tools or instruments? Does he light incense and chant? Does he throw clamshells at the rising sun? What does he physically do during the attunement?

Please be specific.

The Master lays their hands on the top of your head to start. Hopefully there will be no squeezing like a pimple. I hate it when you get brain all over your hands. ;)

There is a set Attunement proceedure, which I gather varies a bit between the different Reiki 'schools', that the Master follows. It involves in part the Master drawing the master symbol with their hands on certain locations, one of them being the top of the head and another being over the heart. They send Reiki while they are doing this. They also imprint the symbols for the level you are being attuned to. They do say something, but I couldn't make it out, it may have just been the names of the symbols being used. The steps are repeated, maybe three times (?). That is what I remember from my attunments. My perception was the 'energy' coming from the Master got more intense with each level and the 'energy' coming from me increased likewise.
 
It involves in part the Master drawing the master symbol with their hands on certain locations, one of them being the top of the head and another being over the heart. They send Reiki while they are doing this. They also imprint the symbols for the level you are being attuned to.
The Master traces a symbol on your head with his finger and *presto* you now have the power to send reiki "energy" and heal people? Is that the deal in a nutshell?

What if the Master drew the secret symbol backwards on your skull? Would you then be able to suck the reiki out of people? That would be a useful skill to have, I think.
 
The Master traces a symbol on your head with his finger and *presto* you now have the power to send reiki "energy" and heal people? Is that the deal in a nutshell?

What if the Master drew the secret symbol backwards on your skull? Would you then be able to suck the reiki out of people? That would be a useful skill to have, I think.

Not quite but you are in the ballpark.

LOL. Hmmm, you may be onto something here. A novel way to fleece the new age crowd, psychic extortion. "Either you pay me or I'll suck your energy dry". For the Dinsdale Brothers, this was their turning point. :)
 

Back
Top Bottom