Q-Source:
So, determinism is not generally accepted among Physics. I learn something new everyday.
Is that True? It seems a contradiction to me. To say determinism is False is analogous (Logically equivalent) to claiming that reality is NOT Objective (logical).
Q-Source:
Well, since they are scientist they have to be objective as well.
But the Copenhagen interpretation is only taught in undergraduate courses in Sciences not in high school courses (I think, I might be wrong).
LD goes hand in hand with Copenhagen. An observer is
required to collapse the wavefunction, and its NOT random. (random = magic).
To be fair, general population does not have to know in detail about Physics. Just like you don't have to be an expert in Economics or Literature.
Depends on what you want to know I guess …
In my opinion, this issue only becomes relevant when we try to comprehend our reality and when we try to approach this reality with theories about the nature of the Universe that Science provides.
Sure, except A-Theism <> Science.
Q-Source:
Then it is very important to know exactly what science offers and most important to understand and interpret that knowledge.
Exactly! Which is why you have to be careful not to make, Dogma = Science. Totally screws up your interpretation.
Evil Sorcerer:
Throw in the fact that the math is above the level that most people are taught (how comfortable are you with complex math and partial differntial equations?), and you have most people saying "how could this be?"
I disagree, the math required to understand the universe is very basic and relatively easy to understand. You A-Theists go out of your way to make things more complicated than it needs to be because it is vital to your religious hierarchy that the people don’t understand it.
Q-Source:
Yeah, it is true. Hey, just my case, I was taught classical physics more than relativity and quantum mechanisc in high school. Before that you mentioned it, I thought that determinism was the rule!. But, as I said above, I am an economist and knowledge in Physics is not relevant unless I have to hold a philosophical and religious posture.
Determinism is the rule. QM has no bearing on the outcome, and this has been hashed out – here on this very board – over and over again. Now that Stimpson has morphed into Mordred, I suppose it will have to be rehashed.
Q-source (or Mordred, or whitefork) if human behavior
really is random at heart (or probabilistic – is you prefer) then could you please tell us all how often you randomly and uncontrollably run “red” traffic lights?
How many times have you gone to hug your father, but due to the random stochastic nature of QM you uncontrollably ended up giving him a swift kick to the nutsack instead?
The fact is human behavior is 100% deterministic, unless the entity in question is insane.
) underlying physics...you get people who know just enough to be dangerous...people who might actually believe the 2nd law of thermodynamics means evolution is impossible. 
