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Real İslam is only in Quran

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About that good old Semitic practice of stoning: I once read, (somewhere or other, and not in any Holey Book) that the Jews stopped stoning for adultery in the 1st century BC. The Christian story of the woman taken in adultery is not found in any text before the 2nd century AD. So something apparently doesn't add up.

Or it might. The story is set in the Near East, among Semites. Then as now, if those guys had made up their minds to hurl rocks at a woman until she died, they'd by god do it, priests' rules be damned. Or hadith be damned.

The story as we receive it has a circumstantiality that's rather convincing. Except for the part where Jesus shames those barbarians out of their cruelty. It would take one helluva rabbi or imam to do that.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
As can be seen, there is no rajm (stoning), headscarf, communism, black stone, aggression/oppression, circumcision in the Qur'an, i.e. in Islam.

And there are no practices such as holy people, poverty and asceticism in the Qur'an. But these are again in the false Bible.

Islam forbids them. Holy Quran forbids these pagan beliefs and practices in the false Bible. In the same way, the holy Qur'an forbids slavery, whereas the false Bible allows slavery.
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You are quoting yourself AGAIN. Please stop it before being reported. Last warning.
 
Once again Emre, even if you are 100% correct in your assertions about what the Qu'ran says and that only it is the basis for Islam...why should we care?

Why should we care what the Qu'ran says? Why should we listen to it at all?

What about all the other lunacy that IS in the Qu'ran?
 
We need an anthropology of religion

MarkCorrigan said:
Once again Emre, even if you are 100% correct in your assertions about what the Qu'ran says and that only it is the basis for Islam...why should we care?

Why should we care what the Qu'ran says? Why should we listen to it at all?

What about all the other lunacy that IS in the Qu'ran?
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This thread is about REAL Islam. That term is, I think, open to interpretation. Out here in the messy old world, we see that Islamism contains all kinds of non-, trans-, quasi-, and pseudo-Qranic matter. So what? Religions are like that, because they can never be sufficient for everybody's needs. People will insist on tampering with their cult, mostly by adding stuff to it.

In Emre's case, we see a cultist trying to remove things from his religion. That's a little unusual, but not unheard of among puritans.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
In the same way, the holy Qur'an forbids slavery, whereas the false Bible allows slavery.
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YOU ARE LYING AGAIN

Quran 2.221

Do not marry unbelieving women (idolaters), until they believe: A slave woman who believes is better than an unbelieving woman, even though she allures you. Nor marry (your girls) to unbelievers until they believe: A man slave who believes is better than an unbeliever, even though he allures you. Unbelievers do (but) beckon you to the Fire. But Allah beckons by His Grace to the Garden (of bliss) and forgiveness, and makes His Signs clear to mankind: That they may celebrate His praise.

Quran 24.31

And say to the believing women that they should lower their gaze and guard their modesty; that they should not display their beauty and ornaments except what (must ordinarily) appear thereof; that they should draw their veils over their bosoms and not display their beauty except to their husbands, their fathers, their husband's fathers, their sons, their husbands' sons, their brothers or their brothers' sons, or their sisters' sons, or their women, or the slaves whom their right hands possess, or male servants free of physical needs, or small children who have no sense of the shame of sex; and that they should not strike their feet in order to draw attention to their hidden ornaments. And O ye Believers! turn ye all together towards Allah, that ye may attain Bliss.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
I am not against vaccination. I am saying that there are no real vaccines anymore, especially mrna gene therapy is a horrible trap, none of them are vaccines.
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Here's a thread where you can present your evidence, if it's truly scientific.
https://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=367734

Alternatively, here's where you can post evidence of your claim if you feel there is a conspiracy regarding whether mRNA vaccines are "gene therapy."
https://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=357218

I'm guessing you will not step outside your little walled garden and actually engage people in the real world who actually know what they're talking about.
 
Norman Alexander said:
When did you get your doctorates in immunology and genetics?
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He's already indicated he doesn't respect the process or outcome of secular education. He doesn't understand it, of course. Nevertheless he writes it off as mere rote indoctrination, fit only for producing graduates who can't do any more than mindlessly repeat what they've been told. The real information is on YouTube and web sites: what They don't want you to know.
 
It's the single most basic concept in... like everything.

People who are wrong will fight the idea that knowledge comes with standards, tests, rules, anything that could prove them right or wrong.

Wrong people want knowledge to be a game of who's the loudest and most stubborn, who can talk the longest repeating themselves and is the most immune to counter-arguments.

He wants to preach. He doesn't want to argue.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
I am not against vaccination. I am saying that there are no real vaccines anymore, especially mrna gene therapy is a horrible trap, none of them are vaccines.
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Bollocks. You're spewing unscientific rubbish, again.
 
Emre_1974tr said:
https://free-minds.org/forum/index.php?topic=9610016.0

In addition to alcohol, gambling is also conditionally permissible/halal.
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You go read your little fairy story from your imaginary friend all you want. Just remember, when your imaginary friend tells you do something or not do something, that it doesn't apply to me.

As it happens I don't do either of those things but for reasons entirely unrelated to incoherent ramblings of you little book.
 
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