Emre_1974tr
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Let me point out again that there is no winged mule named Burak in the Qur'an. This is an un-Islamic belief.
Real İslam is only in Quran
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Norman Alexander
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OK, then. Despite the fact it was referred to in the 17th sura, and the prophet's ride to heaven on the back of Buraq is a celebrated Islamic date.
Cosmic Yak
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Maybe this is another of those Satanic Verses moments.
Emre, who put that verse into the Qur'an?
Emre, who put that verse into the Qur'an?
Emre_1974tr
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Ahahahaha....
As can be seen, there is no winged mule named Burak in the Qur'an.
You're the one lying here.
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Scorpion
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Surah 17.1 is clearly referring to the flying mule story. But like much of the unholy Quran it leaves out the essential details like the mules name.
You will be telling us next that the Quran does not say an ant can talk.
Cosmic Yak
Philosopher
As can be seen? How? Everyone here can see the surah quoted. It's there, in the Qur'an, talking about a winged animal, that flew the Prophet to visit a place that hadn't been built yet.
How did that surah get into the Qur'an, Emre? Did those who brainwashed you not tell you how to deal with this particular verse?
Emre_1974tr
Graduate Poster
Friends again continue to lie or not understand what they have read.
The flying winged mule Burak is never mentioned in the Holy Qur'an.
In the verse they give, it is only said that a person is travelling from one place to another.
There is no Burak or any flying animal. There is not even such a word. The distortionist friends here, like all hadith-sectarians, are recklessly trying to continue their slander in order to continue their lies.
By the way, in my Turkish article on Miraj, I explain the subject in the light of verses:
http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2016/05/goklerevrenler.html
The flying winged mule Burak is never mentioned in the Holy Qur'an.
In the verse they give, it is only said that a person is travelling from one place to another.
There is no Burak or any flying animal. There is not even such a word. The distortionist friends here, like all hadith-sectarians, are recklessly trying to continue their slander in order to continue their lies.
By the way, in my Turkish article on Miraj, I explain the subject in the light of verses:
http://emre1974tr.blogspot.com/2016/05/goklerevrenler.html
Cosmic Yak
Philosopher
1. You are lying about the contents of the Qur'an. 'Glory be to the one who took his servant Muhammad'. That is clearly more than one person travelling.
2. No-one is going to read your blog.
3. Where does it say in the Qur'an that slavery is prohibited?
How do you explain the Prophet owning slaves?
4. What is the destination of the sun? How can the sun overtake the moon?
Pixel42
Schrödinger's cat
No, that's not all it says. It also says that it was God who transported that person between two specific places, and that the trip took place during a single night.
Given the distance between those two specific places, God must have flown him there somehow. There's another accepted source which is clearly describing the same trip, and which fills in the specific details of that 'somehow'.
Emre_1974tr
Graduate Poster
1- No, the verses clearly say that the Quran is complete and cannot be taken together with any other source.
2- There is an example in the Qur'an of rapid transit from one place to another by teleportation technology. In other verses we see that such journeys can be made using vehicles such as spaceships. We also learn from the verses that Allah can do what He wants directly without making anything instrumental.
But never in the Qur'an is there any mention of a flying mule or Burak.
Pixel42
Schrödinger's cat
So you're OK with teleportation and spaceships and time travel to the future, and even God just magically making stuff happen, but for some reason object to a flying mule? Why? Magic is impossible, no matter what form it is described as taking.
The fundamental impossibility of the trip is what makes this story laughable. The flying mule just makes it a little bit funnier.
Oh good you can read my posts. In that case.
This is the 10th time I've asked you this.
The Quran states the following provably wrong, non-subjective falsehoods in a non-parable way.
1. It describes a geocentric solar system. This is factually wrong.
2. Similar to the Bible is describes the Earth as being created is six days. This is factually wrong.
3. It describes the Earth as being created before the stars. This is factually wrong.
4. It states that 7 Earths exist. This is factually wrong.
5. It describes the Earth and Moon as the same size and same distance from Earth. This is factually wrong.
6. It claims the Moon generates its own light. This is factually wrong.
7. It decrees that followers follow rituals that make no sense if the length of a day is variable, such as it is at higher latitudes.
8. Humans are created from clay. This is factually wrong.
9. Human descending from a magically created original pair of humans. This is factually wrong.
10. Sperms comes from the backbone and ribs. This is factually wrong.
11. Embryos are formed entirely from the semen. This is factually wrong.
12. It describes the heart as a thinking organ like the brain. This is factually wrong.
13. How you are supposed to face toward Mecca makes no sense if the Earth is round.
14. It describes salt and fresh water as not mixing in nature. This is factually wrong.
15. It describes a massive wall of iron as existing in Biblical (or Quranian or whatever) times. This is historically impossible.
16. It tells of Crucifixions occurring in Egypt at the time of Moses. This is historically inaccurate.
17. It repeats the oft repeated Noah flood myth.
18. It has a description of humans being turned into apes as punishment for breaking the Sabbath.
19. The whole flying horse thing which is in the Quran and I don't know why you try to lie and say it doesn't.
20. The inheritance rules don't add up mathematically, even if you round the numbers off.
21. Apparently if you have bangs you're a liar.
These are not "interpretations" or parables or "colorful language" or metaphors or some ancient people's interpretations of anything. They are falsehoods and lies.
Emre_1974tr
Graduate Poster
1- No, God does not use magic, He does it directly. He does not need to make anything instrumental for this. But He can use instrumentals if He wants to.
2- This journey is possible. It is possible through science or other way.
Pixel42
Schrödinger's cat
If it violates the laws of physics it's magic. And that trip, if it had actually taken place, would have violated the laws of physics.
This is what I say when I mean there are levels of being wrong that should be considered uncivil. This is so wrong there's no way to respond to it.
Emre_1974tr
Graduate Poster
No, the laws of physics are God's way of doing things too and none of this is magic. The big bang is not magic, neither is teleportation or travelling in a spaceship.
By the way, you don't know what does or does not violate the laws of physics.
"God can do anything with magic but it's not magic because it's God."
Stunning. Simply stunning.
Any religion can be contained anywhere. For example, in my fridge I have a jar of ajvar, labeled "kırmızı biber sosu," which, translated, means "100% real İslam." We can be sure that's correct, because religion does not exist and therefore can be found anywhere, or nowhere, or someplace intermediate, say between the ears of a believer.
I use ajvar in spaghetti sauce and other tomato-based recipes. If Emre adds his koran to stews, bean dishes, or snack dips, I for one will defend his right to do so. The rest of you aren't his friends if you don't. So there.
I use ajvar in spaghetti sauce and other tomato-based recipes. If Emre adds his koran to stews, bean dishes, or snack dips, I for one will defend his right to do so. The rest of you aren't his friends if you don't. So there.
Norman Alexander
Penultimate Amazing
You think you speak for Allah, that he talks through you, that you know his mind, that you know what he would do if he wanted. Correct?
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