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REAL conspiracies

Elind said:
She wasn't wrong in principle was she?
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No, but some of her specifics were almost certainly incorrect. DDT is not the monster compound that she made it out to be, but it is certainly not benign either. But there were many other chemicals out there that were harming wildlife, especially birds, and by raising the awareness of them, she probably saved many species. Her detractors will focus on the mistakes she made, and say, "She's a liar." Honest environmentalists like myself will say, "Yes there were mistakes. Let's find them and fix them."

Origin of the Species is full of mistakes too. That doesn't mean that Darwin was wrong in principle.
 
Darat said:
The conspiracy to conceal the data (and later on to prevent others re-discovering the evidence) that showed that cigarettes were killing people.
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Minor derail: Did you know that the first to discover the harmfull effects of smoking were the Nazis?
 
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Kerberos said:
Minor derail: Did you know that the first to discover the harmfull effects of smoking were the Nazis?
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I'm sure people knew it was bad before 1933. But if they did, then hey, it bumps their good to bad ratio up to 3/-12,000,000. (The other two are jet-propulsion and the Volkswagen).

I would say the gentlemens' agreement cover-up of the harmful effects of lead in everyday products by Rockefeller and his cronies in the early decades of the 20th century. That's gotta be much worse than Big Tobacco. Cigarettes are optional - but you kinda need gasoline, paint and toothpaste.
 
I don't get it, WildCat. Who is supposed to be fooled? The South Koreans? Surely not, since I assume that knowledge of the condition of North Korea is well known...or is that a bad assumption.
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No, that's a valid assumption. With the exception of the fringe groups here who are North Korean apologists, most South Koreans at least have general knowledge of the conditions in the North.

I think he is alluding to the fact that both North and South Korea are allowed to have one village within the DMZ. The South has an actual farming village in the DMZ. The North... well, they made a village, only nobody lives there. It does have what is supposedly the largest flag in the world, though, which you can see in the photo provided. But yeah, I'm not sure it really fits as a conspiracy.

As far as conspiracies, how about the assassination of Nicholas II and his family? Very famous and very successful.
 
Tricky said:
DDT is not the monster compound that she made it out to be, but it is certainly not benign either. But there were many other chemicals out there that were harming wildlife, especially birds, and by raising the awareness of them, she probably saved many species.
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More importantly, she probably created the awareness that there could be chemicals harmful to life on a global scale.
 
SezMe said:
I don't get it, WildCat. Who is supposed to be fooled? The South Koreans? Surely not, since I assume that knowledge of the condition of North Korea is well known...or is that a bad assumption.
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Apparently so, the N. Koreans aren't exactly living in the same reality we are. ◊◊◊◊◊◊* crazy they are.
 
I often felt the same way about Soviet "elections". Who exactly were they hoping to deceive?
 
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