Rape in the Congo

[a_unique_person]

I was very pleased to see this.

Good for the UN. I only wish they had sufficient firepower to actually enforce the peace. US soldiers with US airpower would be just fine with me.

MattJ

And me. The UN, as I have said before, is only as good as the support of it's members. To blame the UN for this, or Rwanda, is just to blame it's members for inaction.

 

[Mycroft]

Just checking to see what AUP, Fool and demon have to say about this non-US-related horror.

Nothing at all. Hmmph. Go figure.

If asked to lend air and logistical support, I'm sure we'd manage to scrounge up some forces. Scrounging up public support would be another matter altogether, but I, for one, would support it. Anything's better than sitting back in silence.

Right, guys?

Congo is one of the places I'd like to see added to the USMC world tour. It might cost me a few extra tax dollars, but it would be worth it.

 

[a_unique_person]

Just checking to see what AUP, Fool and demon have to say about this non-US-related horror.

Nothing at all. Hmmph. Go figure.

If asked to lend air and logistical support, I'm sure we'd manage to scrounge up some forces. Scrounging up public support would be another matter altogether, but I, for one, would support it. Anything's better than sitting back in silence.

Right, guys?

I wasn't aware that when you said jump, I had to ask "How high"?

 

[American]

I am truly confounded and disgusted. But, I am also resolved and committed now to see if there is anything I can do to help.

The first and most misguided basis of liberal thought. This statement should written in the sky every night, using high-tech satellite lasers, so that we all become numb to it and ignore anyone who says such things.

Not to mention this line is used for everything from stepping in dog-dew, to 20-year-old 'kids' (20 and 11 months) caught underage drinking.

Caaaaring kills babies by the thousands. Whatever it is you wish to prevent (rape?), one can bet that anything we do will result in 5 times the human suffering. Murderous good intentions will destroy everything, and in the end, true motives are mainly to impress a) oneself b) snobby friends at parties.


The best, most moral thing you can do is that which does not require stealing more of our paycheck, "educating" kids, or protecting non-victim "victims".

Whatever that thing is-- LET'S GET TO IT!

 

[Mycroft]

I wasn't aware that when you said jump, I had to ask "How high"?

You're really out in left field sometimes. What could he possibly have said to imply that?

 

[a_unique_person]

You're really out in left field sometimes. What could he possibly have said to imply that?

I have a special ability to know what he really thinks.

 

[Mycroft]

I have a special ability to know what he really thinks.

You believe that, don't you?

 

[a_unique_person]

You believe that, don't you?

Absolutely.

 

[Ladyhawk]

Re: Re: Rape in the Congo

The first and most misguided basis of liberal thought. This statement should written in the sky every night, using high-tech satellite lasers, so that we all become numb to it and ignore anyone who says such things.

Not to mention this line is used for everything from stepping in dog-dew, to 20-year-old 'kids' (20 and 11 months) caught underage drinking.

Caaaaring kills babies by the thousands. Whatever it is you wish to prevent (rape?), one can bet that anything we do will result in 5 times the human suffering. Murderous good intentions will destroy everything, and in the end, true motives are mainly to impress a) oneself b) snobby friends at parties.


The best, most moral thing you can do is that which does not require stealing more of our paycheck, "educating" kids, or protecting non-victim "victims".

Whatever that thing is-- LET'S GET TO IT!

Coming from almost anyone else here, this response might have bothered me. But, when I consider the source.....

 

[Ed]

WARNING! Graphic descriptions of violence and hatred attached in link , "Postcards from the Edge" Be warned that reading some of these testimonies will be very difficult!

There has been a lot of discussion around the film "Hotel Rwanda" and how accurately it depicted the mass maimings that took place there. Heartless, inhumane and cruel are words that barely describe the torture those innocents endured.

I naively thought that I'd heard or read about every shameful act that man was capable of. Until I read last month's "O" magazine:

http://www.oprah.com/omagazine/200502/omag_200502_congo.jhtml

I have always been a 'humanist', believing that we innately know what is best for us as individuals and as a society. I realize that some of us deviate from what we know to be true either out of greed, some misdirected notion of justice or as the result of a crippled childhood.

Yet, how can any society, anywhere in the world, produce men (or women) who have such callous disrespect, such hatred, of other human beings. How can one impose such violence and cruelty, without conscience, upon an innocent person? How can one just shoot small children whose only crime is that they tried to protect their mothers?

Rape only begins the drawn out torture process for these women who are often abandoned by their husbands or treated as criminals themselves.

What religion, what political structure could possibly warrant behavior such as this?

I am truly confounded and disgusted. But, I am also resolved and committed now to see if there is anything I can do to help.

There are, indeed, monsters in the world. Thinking that the laws and methods that work with the likes of you and me is silly in the extreme.

 

[Ladyhawk]

Re: Re: Rape in the Congo

There are, indeed, monsters in the world. Thinking that the laws and methods that work with the likes of you and me is silly in the extreme.

I fail to see why it wouldn't. From what I've read so far, the problem doesn't lie in that there are no laws against these crimes...it is in that they are not enforced. You don't think there would be a different outcome if they were enforced?

 

[demon]

Jocko:
"Just checking to see what AUP, Fool and demon have to say about this non-US-related horror.
Nothing at all. Hmmph. Go figure.
If asked to lend air and logistical support, I'm sure we'd manage to scrounge up some forces. Scrounging up public support would be another matter altogether, but I, for one, would support it. Anything's better than sitting back in silence.

Right, guys?"


Quite right Jocko. After you have sent your petition to Dubya and Tony, you can get information about signing up here:

http://www.army.com/enlist/requirements.html

Better than sitting back in silence and doing nothing eh? Let us know how you get on.

 

[Jocko]

I wasn't aware that when you said jump, I had to ask "How high"?

Just wanted to know how big your blind spot was. Pretty friggin' big, as it turns out. Maybe they should have included a yarmulke reference in the OP.

It's kinda like the bat-signal for ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊.

 

[Jocko]

Jocko:
"Just checking to see what AUP, Fool and demon have to say about this non-US-related horror.
Nothing at all. Hmmph. Go figure.
If asked to lend air and logistical support, I'm sure we'd manage to scrounge up some forces. Scrounging up public support would be another matter altogether, but I, for one, would support it. Anything's better than sitting back in silence.

Right, guys?"


Quite right Jocko. After you have sent your petition to Dubya and Tony, you can get information about signing up here:

http://www.army.com/enlist/requirements.html

Better than sitting back in silence and doing nothing eh? Let us know how you get on.

Hmmm... opening post 3/4/05, demon makes his entrance on 3/8/05, hot on AUP's heels. Whassamatta, ears started burning?

The marines could get to Congo faster than you got to this issue. Think about that the next time you climb on your soapbox, hypocrite.

 

[a_unique_person]

Just wanted to know how big your blind spot was. Pretty friggin' big, as it turns out. Maybe they should have included a yarmulke reference in the OP.

It's kinda like the bat-signal for ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊.

You're the guy with the blind spot. When there was talk of invading Iraq, I asked why Saddam, when the world has numerous trouble spots that are bad, like this one. The people of Iraq are entitled to 200 billion dollars of special consideration, this place gets a few troops who are doing all they can to stay alive.

 

[Jocko]

You're the guy with the blind spot. When there was talk of invading Iraq, I asked why Saddam, when the world has numerous trouble spots that are bad, like this one. The people of Iraq are entitled to 200 billion dollars of special consideration, this place gets a few troops who are doing all they can to stay alive.

And of course, all the non-evil countries of the UN are too busy doing... er, what again?

 

[demon]

Jocko:
"The marines could get to Congo faster than you got to this issue. Think about that the next time you climb on your soapbox, hypocrite."


As I said before, quite right Jocko. After you have sent your petition to Dubya and Tony, you can get information about signing up here:

http://www.army.com/enlist/requirements.html

Better than sitting back in silence and doing nothing eh? Let us know how you get on ok...wouldn`t want to think you were being hypocritical here.

 

[Jocko]

Jocko:
"The marines could get to Congo faster than you got to this issue. Think about that the next time you climb on your soapbox, hypocrite."


As I said before, quite right Jocko. After you have sent your petition to Dubya and Tony, you can get information about signing up here:

http://www.army.com/enlist/requirements.html

Better than sitting back in silence and doing nothing eh? Let us know how you get on ok...wouldn`t want to think you were being hypocritical here.

No, now you're just dodging the issue. But that's all right. I have high hopes that you, in time, will learn to use the quote function as well.

BTW, I don't know if I've ever congratulated you on your fine choice of avatar. Not only is it a wink to our Australian friends, but it's a character that is only able to grunt unintelligibly and chuck things at people. A more fitting choice I couldn't imagine.

 

[a_unique_person]

And of course, all the non-evil countries of the UN are too busy doing... er, what again?

An excellent question. Why does no-one care about the Congo?

Australia has at least done two recent peace keeping actions, one in East Timor, another in the Solomons.

If you want, you can look up the current peace keeping operations around the world, and past ones.

http://www.un.org/Depts/dpko/dpko/bnote.htm

 

[a_unique_person]

Just wanted to know how big your blind spot was. Pretty friggin' big, as it turns out. Maybe they should have included a yarmulke reference in the OP.

It's kinda like the bat-signal for ◊◊◊◊◊◊◊◊.

Irony is, the post I copied was Skeptic doing a turgid assasination on the UN, and how they usually take sex as payment for their protection. Just think, how many of these Bangladeshi troops were out there raping minors before they died?