Racist partially right?

[leftysergeant]

That is a long way to show that you cannot bring anything forward to show us why they were such 'pretty big hitters'. Fortunately they 'still had their voices'. What a crap.

I think that I have made a solid argument to the effect that it is not race, but resourcesthat made the difference between Rome and Ethiopia.

Rome had resources that they could steal at the point of a sword from cultures around them. Most of their sciences they stole from the Greeks. The Greeks were not even literate when they met the Hebrews and Phoenicians. They were barbarous spear-chuckers who destroyed everything they could not carry away.

The Greeks did not even invent their own musical instruments. They gained them from contact with the mixed cultures of the Middle East.

Ethiopia was an outpost of developed civilization on the edge of a sparsely-settled continent. South and west of them, peole were struggling to stay alive until they established an agricultural base to sustain large populations.

When they did establish that base,, cities began to flourish.

Maybe you were of the impression that all Africans were living in grass-and-mud huts when Europeans "civilized" them.

You would be wrong.

Timbuctu had a functioning university and a thriving book-publishing trade before most Europeans were even allowed to learn to read.

For the length of time that Mali had existed, they were pretty far along, compared to Europeans at the same stage of development.

Their survivng musical tradition is centuries ahead of what Europeans invented for themselves. Their instruments are still suitable for modern music.

 

[Skeptic]

By the way, I wonder if 9/11 investigator knows that, while the Romans appreciatedEgyptian and Persian civlizations (for example), they considered the Aryans -- the Germanic tribes across the Rhine -- to be utterly worthless barbarians, culturally speaking.

The Romans had many prejudices about other tribes or nations, but (like the Egyptians before them) they didn't base their prejudices on skin color.

 

[9/11-investigator]

By the way, I wonder if 9/11 investigator knows that, while the Romans appreciatedEgyptian and Persian civlizations (for example), they considered the Aryans -- the Germanic tribes across the Rhine -- to be utterly worthless barbarians, culturally speaking.

The Romans had many prejudices about other tribes or nations, but (like the Egyptians before them) they didn't base their prejudices on skin color.

The Romans were Aryans themselves. And were beaten by these ´backward´ Germanic tribes in the Teutoburger wald and as a consequence were never able to lastingly cross the Rhine. In contrast Britain was a walk-over (but not Scotland), and was about the last territory that was abandoned by the Romans, no surprises here. The French, Egyptians, Arabs could rather easily be incorporated into the empire, again nor surprises.

Map of Roman empire. The Romans never were able to conquor Germany and in the end the Germanic tribes conquored Rome, after Rome gave in to multiculturalism/multiracialism (well sort of), Christianity, hedonism and what sort of other corruptions have you. The really great time of the Romans was the time of the Roman republic, based on racial purity and discipline. The cultural decline set in during the imperial period, although I admit that it took more than 3 centuries for the edifice to come down. America same story. The great period was the time of the republic and constitution. But now that more than 50% of the new borms in America are coloured you can already predict the downfall of the USA as a great nation. Another great nation biting the dust because of Jewish influence, just like Czarist Russia and indeed Rome.

Nietzsche - Antichrist

Christianity was the vampire of the imperium Romanum,—overnight it destroyed the vast achievement of the Romans: the conquest of the soil for a great culture that could await its time... Epicurus had triumphed, and every respectable intellect in Rome was Epicurean—when Paul appeared ... Paul, the Chandala hatred of Rome, of “the world,” in the flesh and inspired by genius—the Jew, the eternal Jew par excellence.... What he saw was how, with the aid of the small sectarian Christian movement that stood apart from Judaism, a “world conflagration” might be kindled; how, with the symbol of “God on the cross,” all secret seditions, all the fruits of anarchistic intrigues in the empire, might be amalgamated into one immense power. “Salvation is of the Jews.”

The Jew-initiated USSR lasted merely a few decades, it will not be different with multicultural ZOG-USA that will not survive 2020 in one piece. And where Russia is at least more or less racial pure, but without an inspiring aristocratic upper-layer that was murdered under the Bolsheviks, America never had an aristocracy (although the Jews like to imagine that they are America's aristocracy and at least they run the place) and is fatally racially mixed, setting the joint up for a nice Yugoslavia of it's own when the inevitable economic downfall will set in on a global scale, as a consequence of fuel and other resources depletion.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Map with nuclear power plants in the world.

Allmost all in IQ100 area's.

Questions?

 

[FireGarden]

Map with nuclear power plants in the world.

Allmost all in IQ100 area's.

Questions?

Yes. I have a question.
Many of these nuclear power plants were built decades ago. A lot of the science needed to build them was worked on decades before that.

How did a population with an average IQ of 90 or lower manage to build nuclear power plants 40 years ago? How did people, in the 1930's, with an average IQ of around 80 do the science required to plan these nuclear power plants.

What, you disagree with the numbers? They are better established than the numbers you quote from Lynn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect

The revised versions are standardized to 100 using new standardization samples. In ordinary use IQ tests are scored with respect to those standardization samples. The only way to compare the difficulty of two versions of a test is to conduct a separate study in which the same subjects take both versions. Doing so confirms IQ gains over time. The average rate of increase seems to be about three IQ points per decade in the US on tests such as the WISC.

[...] Ulric Neisser estimates that using the IQ values of today the average IQ of the US in 1932, according to the first Stanford–Binet Intelligence Scales standardization sample, was 80.

 

[Ocelot]

I would not call mere counting 'mathematics'. Any mathematics worth it's name is Greek/Euclidean.

So you've never heard of al-jabr?

 

[Skeptic]

I would not call mere counting 'mathematics'. Any mathematics worth it's name is Greek/Euclidean.

That would be quite a surprise to the Hindus, the Mayans, the Chinese, the Arabs (the inventors of algebra and the notion of an algorithm, two subjects the Greeks more or less ignored)...

... but of course you can't win with a racist. If a European discovered something and an Arab developed it further (such as the Arab improvements of with Greek geometry), then the idea is European, and the Arab just "copied" it.

On the other hand, if an Arab discovered something and the European took that ball and ran with it (as the Italians did with the Arab discovery of algerbra), then naturally the Arabs "didn't do anything with the idea" and the "real" credit belongs to the Europeans.

Using that sort of "logic", one can "prove" anything one wants. Ever noticed that those who most often bring up the superior achievements of western civilization tend to be the most ignorant of those achievements?

 

[9/11-investigator]

So you've never heard of al-jabr?

From your link:

Diophantus (3rd century AD), sometimes called "the father of algebra", was an Alexandrian Greek mathematician and the author of a series of books called Arithmetica.

While the word algebra comes from the Arabic language (al-jabr, الجبر literally, restoration) and much of its methods from Arabic/Islamic mathematics, its roots can be traced to earlier traditions, most notably ancient Indian mathematics, which had a direct influence on Muhammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī (c. 780–850). He learned Indian mathematics and introduced it to the Muslim world through his famous arithmetic text, Book on Addition and Subtraction after the Method of the Indians.

Hmmm, Indian... probably a euphemism for 'Aryan'.
And 'addition and subtraction' is very basic algebra. Every stone age simpleton understood that 1+1=3.
Well, incase of a 'adding' a man and a woman that is.

 

[9/11-investigator]

... but of course you can't win with a racist.

That means they have the better arguments.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Yes. I have a question.
Many of these nuclear power plants were built decades ago. A lot of the science needed to build them was worked on decades before that.

How did a population with an average IQ of 90 or lower manage to build nuclear power plants 40 years ago? How did people, in the 1930's, with an average IQ of around 80 do the science required to plan these nuclear power plants.

What, you disagree with the numbers? They are better established than the numbers you quote from Lynn.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flynn_effect

Yes, I noticed I could pump up my IQ with ca. 7 points after doing many tests. I am the last to state that IQ tests are the alfa and omega of measuring intelligence, but it is the best we have, at least as a means of ranking a group of 'similar' people into an intelligence hierarchy (to determine who will go to college and who is not). And a very effective predictor of income, wealth... and the presence of nuclear power stations.

Interesting side remark: it is likely that the Jews are going to lose their comparative advantage of having a high (verbal) group IQ, in a world where very large groups of Gentiles are day in day out busy with science, technology, computer programming, reading the internet and other intellectual activity. Jews, basically Khazar Turkoids with a non-Flynn corrected IQ of 90, adhered to an evolutionary strategy ('religion') where intellectual exercise was encouraged combined with applied social eugenics: and voila, the Aryan world had a little problem: a highly intelligent group of people that had deified themselves and saw themselves as the Choosen, destined to rule over the Goyim in a global slave state, where the USSR was merely a small sign of things to come. America is next. Or at least that was the plan until the rise of the internet.

http://www.vdare.com/sterling/110211_do_as_i_say.htm

 

[FireGarden]

Yes, I noticed I could pump up my IQ with ca. 7 points after doing many tests. I am the last to state that IQ tests are the alfa and omega of measuring intelligence, but it is the best we have, at least as a means of ranking a group of 'similar' people into an intelligence hierarchy (to determine who will go to college and who is not). And a very effective predictor of income, wealth... and the presence of nuclear power stations.

Interesting side remark: it is likely that the Jews are going to lose their comparative advantage of having a high (verbal) group IQ, in a world where very large groups of Gentiles are day in day out busy with science, technology, computer programming, reading the internet and other intellectual activity. Jews, basically Khazar Turkoids with a non-Flynn corrected IQ of 90, adhered to an evolutionary strategy ('religion') where intellectual exercise was encouraged combined with applied social eugenics: and voila, the Aryan world had a little problem: a highly intelligent group of people that had deified themselves and saw themselves as the Choosen, destined to rule over the Goyim in a global slave state, where the USSR was merely a small sign of things to come. America is next. Or at least that was the plan until the rise of the internet.

http://www.vdare.com/sterling/110211_do_as_i_say.htm

Wow. The Flynn effect finally explained. Anybody know JR Flynn's phone number? I have to tell him.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Meanwhile in America:

http://caffertyfile.blogs.cnn.com/2011/03/15/why-is-there-no-looting-in-japan/?hpt=T1

CNN asks: Why is there no looting in Japan?

Answer: for the same reason why the Germans fought until the bitter end, racial homogenous societies have a far higher social cohesion and subsequent trust level than multiculti hell holes like the US, which are characterized by inter-ethnic competition (with the Jews in the role of referee). Compare the Japanese behavior with that of the blacks in New Orleans. That was one orgy of looting and plundering and rape. In the US white flight is the norm, a phenomena mutatis mutandis unknown to Japan.

 

[Skeptic]

Interesting side remark: it is likely that the Jews are going to lose their comparative advantage of having a high (verbal) group IQ

Oh, well. Hey, we've out-smarted you Aryans for hundreds, indeed thousands, of years; it's time to let someone else have a go at being the smartest group in the world.

Jews, basically Khazar Turkoids...

The "Khazars Jews" theory is one of the many pseudo-historical conspiracy theories. Just because Arthur Koestler (who, to be fair, was never an antisemite, unlike most those who use this "theory") naively fell for it, doesn't mean it's true, you know. A quick-and-dirty refutation of this theory can be found here, but it's not at all hard to find out it's nonsense.

It's funny how you not only "know" the Jews are "Khazar Turkoids", but you also "know" their IQ based on this "fact". That's like saying, "The moon, basically made of green cheese -- 18% fat by volume -- is therefore..."

 

[FireGarden]

"The moon, basically made of green cheese..."

Wensleydale!

 

[9/11-investigator]

Oh, well. Hey, we've out-smarted you Aryans for hundreds, indeed thousands, of years; it's time to let someone else have a go at being the smartest group in the world.

Glad you are willing to hand over the keys without a fight.

The "Khazars Jews" theory is one of the many pseudo-historical conspiracy theories. Just because Arthur Koestler (who, to be fair, was never an antisemite, unlike most those who use this "theory") naively fell for it, doesn't mean it's true, you know. A quick-and-dirty refutation of this theory can be found here, but it's not at all hard to find out it's nonsense.

It's funny how you not only "know" the Jews are "Khazar Turkoids", but you also "know" their IQ based on this "fact". That's like saying, "The moon, basically made of green cheese -- 18% fat by volume -- is therefore..."

I assume that the Khazars were turkoid with corresponding IQ-level. Next, according to the Jewish set of living rules a little social eugenics program started and a 'breeding program for intellectuals' began (excuse my blunt french).

Question to you: did the Khazars exist at all, according to you? Or were they merely an invention of the Jew Koestler? If they really existed, what happened to them. Being gassed will not be accepted as a valid answer.

What according to you is the origin of the word 'kagan'? According to my knowledge 'kagan' is the Khazar word for 'king'. So what is origin of the name Kagan (Robert, Elena) if it is not khazar?