Questions. Simply.

[ref]

House of cards:

Okay. Can you then explain, how that is my house of cards, and what are my own beliefs?

 

[JimBenArm]

Someone link a resource that has most if not all of the phone calls from the 9/11 flights. I know some of them were obviously faked. "Mom, this is Mark Bingham...your son, you believe me don't you."

This 6456 is worse than soap-opera acting...

I said this thing wasn't a man in another thread. I called him a child in a grown man's body. I was wrong. How could I insult children that way?

Absolutely an abomination.

 

[Grimes]

I said this thing wasn't a man in another thread. I called him a child in a grown man's body. I was wrong. How could I insult children that way?

Absolutely an abomination.

It's comments like 28th's that convince me there can be no common ground with CTists, at least those that spend much of their time online. The demonstrations of their disconnect from reality can be quite shocking.

Not to take the child analogy too far, it does remind me of when I was a child and considered myself immortal - of course I wasn't, I just couldn't perceive anything beyond my own bubble of safety, just as many CTists cannot see beyond their PCs that the real world does not operate like a techno-thriller.

 

[uk_dave]

Someone had a bit sensible theory about the LIHOP........

I believe you are referring to the LC post made by IVXX. However I personally would not call it sensible.

We consider these events with the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, but we and our lords and masters are not so good at predictions.

For strong LIHOP we need to accept that the conspirators knew exactly how things would pan out both on the day and subsequently.

To know that a terrorist attack was going to take place and either hinder the counter terrorism operation or pro-actively facilitate the terrorist act would mean that those pulling the strings would need to be certain that -

1. Their involvement could be covered up

2. That the act itself would be sufficient to acheive whatever nefarious aims they had

3. That the attack wouldn't be so extreme as to seriously cripple their ability to carry out whatever their nefarious aims were

4. That the backlash from the attacks wouldn't be directed at them

5. That they wouldn't embolden (or embiggen) the terrorists by allowing this one act to take place and thus open pandoras box

6. That they themselves would face physical danger (after all rummy was at the pentagon)

The terrorist attacks on 9/11 were planned and executed apparently without flaw, but ultimately they were chaotic events with no guarantee of precision or effectiveness.

The aftermath of 9/11 could have easily been a witch hunt within the US government with major players finding themselves held to account, or a mass of accusations from those tasked with protecting the US claiming that they were obstructed or hindered in that task.

We only see a possible chain of events because that happens to be how it panned out after the attacks, but rather like the Iraq war where we were assured that wmd existed and that liberation of iraq would be universally welcomed and it would all be virtually self financing, none of these things has come to pass and could well have lead to Bush failing to get a second term had the democrats been more effective in their campaign.

So ultimately to believe LIHOP we must believe that the conspirators wanted the outcome which we see today, and quite frankly if that is the case you have to wonder why they would have even bothered.

 

[beachnut]

Someone link a resource that has most if not all of the phone calls from the 9/11 flights. I know some of them were obviously faked. "Mom, this is Mark Bingham...your son, you believe me don't you."

This 6456 is worse than soap-opera acting...

Only a brainless dolt makes up junk from a phone call from someone who with his fellow Americans fought back against terrorist.

They stood up and beat the terrorist.

Now you, 28th, make fun of them. Good for you! You disrespectful fact less worm. Present facts if you are to disrespect those who had a clue and did something.

You have no clue and you are doing nothing but talk!

Steps for your future:

1 find a brain
2 learn how to use it
3 apologize to all on 9/11 you have disrespected

Mom this is Keith, your son! Hi son! Who does not have some funny way of being the kid with you mom. How many times has my mom thought I was her other sons!

I do not know if Mark's mom is his only mom, his step mom, his father's new wife, his mom in law! You have not set up you lie very well 28th.

You come with junk no back up; just junk. You have less brains than a worm.

Say hello to the worm; Hello 28th.

Say hello to 28th; Hello worm

Good luck brainless worm (just thinking about Mark's mom)

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Someone link a resource that has most if not all of the phone calls from the 9/11 flights. I know some of them were obviously faked. "Mom, this is Mark Bingham...your son, you believe me don't you."

This 6456 is worse than soap-opera acting...

No actually...me taking time out of my life to try and get justice for the victims of 9/11 equals caring. (Justice will only come when America has united as a whole. I as one person cannot bring justice for the victims) However, posting pictures of cats in a thread like this is equal to pissing on the graves of those who died on 9/11.

This is a serious subject matter...and some of you are completely disgracing the memory of those who died...by spamming this thread with inane junk. Show some class how about it.

so if posting cat pics is pissing on the grave of victims how does comparing their last words to bad soap opera acting stack up?

 

[Firestone]

Someone link a resource that has most if not all of the phone calls from the 9/11 flights. I know some of them were obviously faked. "Mom, this is Mark Bingham...your son, you believe me don't you."

This 6456 is worse than soap-opera acting...

So now you are calling Mark Bingham's mother a liar !

Here's what she said:

Once in a while he would say that. He would call up, and he was, he was a young businessman, and used to, used to introduce himself on phone as Mark Bingham, and he was trying to be, uh, strong, and level-headed, and, and strictly business. "Mom, this is Mark Bingham".

Listen to her here.

Source: 911myths.

 

[Horatius]

so if posting cat pics is pissing on the grave of victims how does comparing their last words to bad soap opera acting stack up?

Not to mention implicating his Mother in the cover-up, all at the same time.

I've got a new pic of the cat that exemplifies the CT's perfectly:

Trying to bite the Mouse, but getting your own paw instead. We'll call it MousePawing, okay?

 

[Arus808]

I wish I caught video of my cat chasing his own tail.

 

[Bell]

Not to mention implicating his Mother in the cover-up, all at the same time.

I've got a new pic of the cat that exemplifies the CT's perfectly:

[qimg]http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/imagehosting/94904595b72777de9.jpg[/qimg]


Trying to bite the Mouse, but getting your own paw instead. We'll call it MousePawing, okay?

That picture is quite a bit ehm... revealing. I don't think that's allowed. Think of the children!!

 

[Dog Town]

That picture is quite a bit ehm... revealing. I don't think that's allowed. Think of the children!!

And here I thought, showing the anus of a pussy was apropo! In context anywho...

 

[Gravy]

Someone link a resource that has most if not all of the phone calls from the 9/11 flights. I know some of them were obviously faked.

How does it feel to be the dumbest person on planet Earth? Or are you on this planet?

 

[steve s]

4. Do you think they didn't take the counter attack into account, and if did, what was their plan,

Osama may have been hoping for a counter attack. He may have thought that by drawing the U.S. into a war in the middle east that it would result in a muslim uprising against the secular governments in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Syria, and Egypt.

6. Why did Madeline Sweeney, flight attendant for 12 years, not recognize New York City?

"[/SIZE]Woodward asks her to look out the window to see where they are. "I see water. I see buildings. We are flying low. We are flying very, very low. We are flying way too low. -pause- Oh my God, we are way too low."

You've apparently never been on a plane. You can't see forward very well. You can only see out to the side. If the plane is heading straight for Manhattan, the passengers won't be able to see Manhattan.

Also, can you tell us how many times Madeline Sweeney flew into NYC during her career?

Steve S.

 

[Gravy]

Where are all the sane so called twoofers anyway? ...Wake up people like 28th and some others. Really. Everything that the CT'es say is NOT true. When something is debunked ACCEPT IT. Focus on other topics. You do harm to your own side by hanging on to false claims.

I appreciate the sentiment, but what are the "true" truther claims?

This is a serious question. I really want to know what claims you think are backed by evidence.

 

[Horatius]

That picture is quite a bit ehm... revealing. I don't think that's allowed. Think of the children!!

Sorry, but I don't have a "blur" function in my photo editor program.

 

[defaultdotxbe]

Sorry, but I don't have a "blur" function in my photo editor program.

fixed it for you

 

[JimBenArm]

Sorry, but I don't have a "blur" function in my photo editor program.

How about a "fur" function?

 

[Gravy]

That Osama future plan for example. Thinking they could take the retaliation, could he really think like that? Or just take whatever comes and simply go hiding, leaving his former haven and protectors behind.

So you don't think it's feasible that al Qaeda would not appreciate the consequences of their actions, but you do think it's feasible that "inside jobbers" would attempt this enormous (much larger than al Qaeda's plan) enterprise and enormous coverup, without fear of the consequences if one person spilled the beans?

Do you know what that is, ref?

Insane, that's what that is.

 

[28th Kingdom]

If there were people on Flight 93, they're not heros...just like Jessica Lynch isn't a hero and just like Pat Tillman isn't a hero. THEY'RE VICTIMS and pawns used by the NWO to manipulate the emotions and sentiment of the American people.

Flight 93 was shot down, just like THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TOLD US THREE DIFFERENT TIMES!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0v0_HDwg84

What, you don't believe your leaders... when it becomes inconvenient for you?

 

[Bell]

If there were people on Flight 93, they're not heros...just like Jessica Lynch isn't a hero and just like Pat Tillman isn't a hero. THEY'RE VICTIMS and pawns used by the NWO to manipulate the emotions and sentiment of the American people.

Flight 93 was shot down, just like THE SECRETARY OF DEFENSE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA TOLD US THREE DIFFERENT TIMES!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0v0_HDwg84

What, you don't believe your leaders, when it becomes inconvenient for you?

You are one grave pissing son of a bitch. Grow up.