cabby said:
Colin Fry is a tv psychic in the uk, hosting a show called the Sixth Sense.
Now, I have often complained about entried being removed from this site that raise any doubt about his abilities, or those of John Edwards on the same channel, but amazingly, someone posted a thread calling him a fake, and he has decided to answer it rather than remove it...
http://www.livingtv.co.uk/ubb/Forum19/HTML/001442.html
very interesting.
He has also agreed to be online in the New Year, answering any questions from anyone (so long as there is no abuse). Might be interesting to follow too.
http://www.livingtv.co.uk/ubb/Forum19/HTML/001443.html
Colin stated that this incident was investigated and he was cleared of any fraud so i asked him some pretty basic questions about it.
Here are the questions followed by his comments (unedited)
Who conducted the investigation??
What was the conclusion?
Are the findings of the investigation available to anyone??
You say you will go into it in more depth in your autobiography.. is this because revealing the truth now may damage sales of your book and/or ruin your credibility as a TV medium.
Isn't 'spirit possession' an easy way out when your caught red-handed??
Is this the reason you refuse to be tested by scientists??
What were you doing with an Illuminous trumpet in the first place?
Dear David
I will try to answer you questions in order .
I would be pleased if you would keep my replies to you private as at preseent I can not reply to any come back on the living forum as I will not enter till the hacker has been caught -thanks for the advice about protection but I have already attended to that .
it was at my at my request and on the advice of the the then committe of the Noahs ark society ,an investigation was conducted by Mr Hilton Thompson
there where a number of perculiarities to this incident which I should tell you before we discuss the investigation and its conclusions.
On the day of the experimental seance I had been developing physical mediumship in a closed circle for about two years ,there where many at the time including myself who felt that it was really to early in the development of this form of mediumship to be allowing so many outside sitters to be sitting -however at the time there was quiet a lot of pressure placed on me as I was one of only two mediums allowing outsiders to attend seances .
anyway on the particular day I had felt since early morning that the seance should not procceed ,but as there was approx 30 people attending who had all travelled long distances I felt obliged to continue (should have trusted my feelings!)
once the seance had began and I had reluctantly allowed the trance state to come over me several of the regular sitters including my 68 year old circle leader felt that all was not right as the seance was not following a normal course of events with the phenomena being crude and aggressive .
the lights had been extinguished at the beggining of the seance and the light switches had been boxed over and secured with 'duck tape ' ,approx 20 min in to the seance all the main lighting came on , to reveal me standing in the middle of the room in what was described as a dazed state ,now we get into the area of what those attending claim they saw a) some report a dark mass wipping back into the seance cabinet and myself being thrown to the floor screaming in pain b) others report that I fell to the floor and no dark mass was seen but the seance trumpet was not initially in my hand but fell from mid air into my outstrtched arms! c) others say I was not even standing on the ground but was suspended approx 12" of the ground .therfore I must conclude that the views of the witnessess is unreliable or at best subjective
As at the time I was said to be in great distress and in considrable pain with bruising and burn marks to the solar plexus I was escorted from the room to recover .
several attending checked the cabinet area where I had been secured to a windsor style chair using 300llb breaking strain cable ties to the amazement of everyone these where lying on the floor broken , but not at the obviouse point of the conections
these where gathered togethere and sealed in a plastic bag which was secured and signed over by two people .
the investigator was asked to specifically look into two points 1) how could the lights come on when they where boxed over with and duck take that had not been tampered with 2) how where the cable ties broken when stronger men than I where asked to break them and found it impossibile .
the question to the lights I must come to later .
the cable ties where taken to a university (believe it was duraham ) and analised under electo Microscope -the analsis had them baffelled -apparently polymer (plastic) if cut or snapped under normal circumstances will stretch -there where no signs of stretching -they further concluded that the only way they could recreate these breaks was to either freeze them in dry ice (which they concluded had not been done with the ones from the seance ) or hold them tight in a vice and at great speed drop a weighted pendulum blade on them which avoided the stretching - when the point was put to them had this methord been used what would have happened as was the case with them tight around a persons wrists and ankles at the time the reponse was that it would have with out doubt have cut of the persons hands and feet !
Further to this investigation the committee of the NAS and several scientists asked me to conduct a test seance which was conducted a week later the purpose of this seance was to try to ascertain from my spirit controls why this had happened and why they had not stopped it .
The answer they recieved was that in fact they had tried to impress on me not to procceed with the seance which of course I had , realising that matters had developed beyond there control it had in fact been them that had thrown the lights(worth noting the lights where revealed to still be in the off positon once the boxing had been removed) on even though this risked my well being and of course would expose me to the inevitable accusations of fraud , this decision I have long accepted to be the right one for them to have taken .
further to this my main control announced that the culprit of this mischief a distressed soul called danny was to be allowed to come through again but under control to give account of himself ,it transpired that this poor unfourtunate was goaded into this action by what he called the voices in the dark place , he then proccedded to be extremly abusive to all present expressing his hatred for them and me , as there where several very experianced spiritualists present this poor soul was persuaded to allow himself to be guided to a place of peace .
The summary of the findings where published in Psychic news but the full report was only made availibile to the members of the Noahs ark society on request as this had been an experimental seance organised for members only.
It was on my insistance that Psychic news was keept informed and that the whole subject was not hushed up (not that the NAS had any intention of doing so ).
Although at the time Mr Hilton Thompson was the technical advisor of the NAS his directive in this investigation was to assertain facts even if this was unfavourable to me (with my full support).
The conclusion has to be that a) there is no provable scientific reason why the lights came on b) the breakage of the cable ties was unexplainable by scientific analisis.
From a personal point I have never avoided talking about this subject and have done so on many occassions publicly even using it in lectures as a warning not to push the development of your mediumship to fast .
I have since this incident conducted thousands of seances all over the world often in the presence of men of science ,who I still maintain are often the worst people to set themselves up as investigators .
There is no great mystery as to why I prefer to use this incident for my autobigraphy -after all is that not the point of an autobigraphy to tell the story of your life -I can assure you it will certainly not be a sanitised version of my life -I intend it to be a warts and all account .
To be constantly under suspision as a fraud comes with the terriotry of being a medium or psychic -I will not be the first to be accused or the last -but I know I am at heart and honest man -I can answer to my conscience and my God , I have never claimed that the incident at the seance was a case of possession more a case of some frightend confused and angry soul lashing out - so accusse me of what you will my conscience is clear I have never knowingly been fraudulant .
The reason I have no intrest in scientific investigation is that its all been done before -I am not going to be a part of scientists fence sitting and wrangle -the SPR has existed for over a hundred years and acheived nothing ,other than question the morals sanity and honesty of Mediums and investigators alike .
More than this they want quick results but are not prepared to sit for what might take years to achieve only ending up with a botched and flawed findings -recent examples 'the scole report ' and the findings of Prof Gary swartz .
they walk away its the mediums who suffer the indiganaty of charater assasination .
As for the illlumious trumpet -its standard equipment in a physical seance where trumpet phenomena is anticipated .
As for my credibility -do you not think I was aware that although there would be praise there would be equal amounts of cynisism sceptisism and outright hostility .
If I was to be truley bothered by this I would have stayed out of the limelight and contiuned to pursue a very successful career in management , but sometimes you just have to have the courage to face the flack for the sake of the people who do believe or want to believe ..
I am lead to belive you also asked about the Axminster incident - I refuse to go back there on the basis that the whole accusation was leveled by a very bitter woman who where aggreaved becouse the centre would not promote her husbands claims to possess physical mediumship ,she caused great upset amongst those who attended a number of seances I had conducted there , which had bought forth remarkable evidence of the survival of the inviduals who made themselves known to the satisfaction of all who attended till she arrived on the scene -this woman only betrays her ignorance when she claims that the tangable spirit forms had mass and weight -A fact which has been scientifically shown many times . there where a number of complaints made about this woman by people who attended these seances but the committtee of the centre refused to take action against her ,I therefore decided I would not return .
I also understand that someone has been asking for tapes of the unedited sixth sense be submitted to 'experts' in cold reading ! who decided they where experts !
my feeling is they will find exactly what they have set themselves up to be self proclaimed experts in -becouse that is there agenda - from my view a pointless exersise only bound to fuel another pointless argument of "yes he does no he does not ".
In conclusion I do not conduct any public seances at all anymore but still occassionally conduct private seances for regular sitters and there reccomended freinds only, also for the Noahs ark society members about three times a year and my students at the college in sweden where I am the principle. the increasing risk of aggitators and those who had made it known they intended me harm made the risk of more public seances impossible ,and ultimatly I have a family and partner to consider who had asked me not to continue to place myself at risk in this way,the final straw was in 2001 when death threats where made against me by born again christians .
I ask you once again to respect this is a private coorespoundance and not to make my respounce to you publicly known ,once I am able to return to the forum and other chat area,s I will be more than happy to talk about these and any other issues.
regards
Colin Fry
p.s sorry about the spelling but I am dyslexic
Your thoughts?