Proof that Iraq is in "material breach" of UNSC resolution 687 since inception.

[rikzilla]

Reposted...but relevant here as well

MSNBC has it too

From the link
SARGAT, Iraq, April 4 — MSNBC.com tests reveal evidence of the deadly toxins ricin and botulinum at a laboratory in a remote mountain region of northern Iraq allegedly used as a terrorist training camp by Islamic militants with ties to the al-Qaida terrorist network.

You guys who've been bleating about no evidence of WMD, and no evidence of Al Qaida links call all now free free to shut the f#ck up.

-z

 

[Ian Osborne]

You guys who've been bleating about no evidence of WMD, and no evidence of Al Qaida links call all now free free to shut the f#ck up.

But the remote northern regions of Iraq are outside Saddam's control anyway. And didn't you spot the word 'allegedly' in there?

 

[rikzilla]

But the remote northern regions of Iraq are outside Saddam's control anyway. And didn't you spot the word 'allegedly' in there?

sheesh!! Nothing happens in Saddam's police state without his approval. More evidence becomes available every hour!! If you still are of the opinion that Saddam is innocent, and the war on Iraq bogus,....I refer you back to my lead post on this thread....posted back in January. Evidence which has never been refuted even though the lefties on this board have had 3+ months to do so! l

If you don't think there's evidence yet, there's always tomorrow. When we've been in control of the country for a solid month after the fall of Saddam's regime...and still now WMD evidence I will conceed the point to those on the left. However,...the lefties have a better chance of getting a frosty mug of rootbeer in Hell than they have of being proved right on this issue.

-z

 

[Wayne Grabert]

Reposted...but relevant here as well

MSNBC has it too


You guys who've been bleating about no evidence of WMD, and no evidence of Al Qaida links call all now free free to shut the f#ck up.

-z

WRONG! That's a Kurdish controlled area of Iraq. It has nothing to do with Hussein's regime.

Try again.

 

[Baker]

It just resently became apart of Kurdish controlled area of Iraq.

led an infantry charge two days ago that pushed the approximately 700 Ansar fighters out of their villages and toward the peaks. U.S. forces played a crucial role, with airstrikes and cruise missiles that crushed the buildings in the village of Sargat.

 

[Wayne Grabert]

It just resently became apart of Kurdish controlled area of Iraq.

That area was just one mile from the Iranian border and within the northern no-fly zone and outside the control of Hussein's regime. So while that particular section of the NFZ may not have been directly under the control of the Kurds, it was in the region where they had autonomy.

I've made the point on this Board a few times before, as have others, that even if biological or chemical weapons were eventually found in Iraq, that it would not legitimize this war. However, if they are not found, then that would help expose the phony pretext used to start the war.

Perhaps the "more evidence" that Ric writes about include
this false alarm:

U.S. Marines near the southern Iraqi city of Nasiriyah found what initially appeared to be suspicious chemicals in water samples from the Euphrates River, two defense officials said Friday.

Details were sketchy, but both officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said they knew of no indications that subsequent tests of the water had confirmed the presence of illegal chemicals.

This false alarm perhaps?

US military admits 'suspicious' powder is explosive

American officials have admitted that the thousands of boxes of white powder they seized north of Baghdad are explosives.

The US military and various media outlets had suggested that they may have made the first discovery of chemical weapons in Iraq.

That last story just came out today also.

It's interesting how finding and destroying WMD was stated as a top priority when the war started, but with no luck in finding any it has now slipped in importance in speeches by Bush in favor of "freeing the Iraqi people."

However, if this report is accurate, the Iraqi people
may not be welcoming the favor.

It was now dusk. We drove through thick smoke and saw detonations of some sort at a nearby army base. As we entered the city we veered off onto the side streets, and found a city braced to defend itself.

The Fedayin were out in their black uniforms and balaclavas. Men armed with Kalashnikovs were manning sandbag emplacements on the corners. I had never seen so many armed Iraqis on the streets.

The Americans and British may say their motivation is to liberate the Iraqis, but these people gave every impression that they were prepared to die for their country.

 

[no one in particular]

That area was just one mile from the Iranian border and within the northern no-fly zone and outside the control of Hussein's regime. So while that particular section of the NFZ may not have been directly under the control of the Kurds, it was in the region where they had autonomy.

Nah, that is not exactly right. The alleged terrorist training camp, Sargat, is a village located in the mountains east of Halabja. While Halabja is located in the PUK it is well south of the 36th parallel (the northern no-fly zone).

This link shows that Ansar al-Islam is located west of Halabja.

This link shows that Halabja is located well south of the 36th parallel.

 

[rikzilla]

bump

(Because I miss Dr. X)....and because this stuff is being rehashed and re-written by the lefties among us. It's instructive to remember our own recent history.

-z

 

[rikzilla]

bump?? hey, does this thing work??

 

[ImpyTimpy]

Isn't 687 a fairly old resolution, with other resolutions passed on top of it, stating that Iraq was in fact in breach of 687?

 

[Wayne Grabert]

What is the point of bumping this thread unless Rikzilla is now willing to admit that the whole WMD argument was a ruse and without foundation? (Just like the al Qaida connection that was another lie.)

 

[peptoabysmal]

Isn't 687 a fairly old resolution, with other resolutions passed on top of it, stating that Iraq was in fact in breach of 687?

Here's a link to the UNSCOM chronology of events concerning resolution 687.

I have a feeling that we could find a 1 megaton thermonuclear warhead, sitting on a launch pad with coolant pouring out, ready for someone to push the button and there will be people who say "Well, 1 megaton isn't much by current technology standards" or "It could just be a vehicle to launch a cable satellite".

The fact is that there has been plenty of evidence that Saddam deliberately violated the agreement, which he made at the end of the Gulf war to save his sorry ass. He has been laughing at the world and the bleeding hearts who defend him for the last 12 years.

 

[Crossbow]

bump

(Because I miss Dr. X)....and because this stuff is being rehashed and re-written by the lefties among us. It's instructive to remember our own recent history.

-z

Agreed, it worthwhile to remember recent hstory.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/N26295557.htm

UN panel finds no links between Iraq and al Qaeda

UNITED NATIONS, June 26 (Reuters) - A U.N. terrorism committee found no evidence of links between Iraq and al Qaeda network, which it said on Thursday had sprouted a third generation of suicide bombers in Morocco and elsewhere.

The committee, charged with reporting on al Qaeda and remnants of Afghanistan's Taliban, released a 42-page report on the state of international terrorism following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

"Nothing has come to our notice that would indicate links between Iraq and al Qaeda," said Michael Chandler, one of five outside experts who prepared the report for the committee.

...

 

[ImpyTimpy]

Here's a link to the UNSCOM chronology of events concerning resolution 687.

I have a feeling that we could find a 1 megaton thermonuclear warhead, sitting on a launch pad with coolant pouring out, ready for someone to push the button and there will be people who say "Well, 1 megaton isn't much by current technology standards" or "It could just be a vehicle to launch a cable satellite".

I seriously doubt that would happen...

The fact is that there has been plenty of evidence that Saddam deliberately violated the agreement, which he made at the end of the Gulf war to save his sorry ass. He has been laughing at the world and the bleeding hearts who defend him for the last 12 years.

Yes, in terms of 687 I'm sure (which was good old GW 1 days)... However, we're still waiting for the evidence of WMD's (this is 2003 last time I checked) and any other serious violations which justified GW 2...

 

[ithinksoiam]

Have you warmongers found your WMDs yet?

If not, just shut the f*ck up already!

You guys have no moral standing to come out and spout your stinking idiocy at this time. Why don't you go back to your sh*tholes and come out when you find your precious WMDs.

Thank you.

 

[Crossbow]

Tone it down -

To: ithinksoiam

Please watch your language because there has been a problem with the JREF web site being blocked by filtering software used at public libraries, schools, and other such places.

Try this format instead, it will get your point across without touching the digital tripwires:

Re: Have you warmongers found your WMDs yet?

If not, just shut the f*ck up already!

You guys have no moral standing to come out and spout your stinking idiocy at this time. Why don't you go back to your sh*tholes and come out when you find your precious WMDs.

Thank you.

 

[Nie Trink Wasser]

IRAQ HID NUKE-ARMS TOOLS IN BACK YARD

IRAQ HID NUKE-ARMS TOOLS IN BACK YARD

By NILES LATHEM and ANDY SOLTIS
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June 26, 2003 -- An Iraqi scientist buried key pieces of his nation's nuclear technology in his Baghdad back yard, on orders from Saddam Hussein's son and son-in-law, to conceal the equipment until it was needed to build an atomic bomb, it was reported last night.

The parts Mahdi Obeidi dug up, which are now at CIA headquarters in Virginia, are not the smoking gun of Iraq's suspected weapons of mass destruction, U.S. officials told CNN

http://www.nypost.com/news/worldnews/1899.htm

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SCENE OF MASSACRE:
Iraqi kids play on the burned hulk of a British vehicle in Majar al-Kabir, where six Britons were killed yesterday by a mob that heard a rumor they were searching women's rooms for weapons.
- AP

 

[Graham]

bump

(Because I miss Dr. X)....and because this stuff is being rehashed and re-written by the lefties among us. It's instructive to remember our own recent history.

-z

I miss Dr. X too! What happened to him anyway?

Maybe we should ask Cleopatra . . .

Graham

 

[Wayne Grabert]

IAEA: Buried parts are evidence Iraq did not restart program.

VIENNA (AP) - Indirectly challenging a U.S. argument for war on Iraq, the UN atomic agency said Thursday that a find of parts from Baghdad's original nuclear weapons program appears to back its stance that the project had never been reactivated.

The comments reflected the ongoing dispute between the United Nations and Washington over whether outsted president Saddam Hussein was trying to make weapons of mass destruction.

The U.S. administration argued such programs existed in going to war against Baghdad, while UN inspectors said their searches on the ground turned up no evidence of such programs.

It was also reported on NPR that the parts were so badly corroded after having been buried so long that they were useless.

 

[rikzilla]

bumped in the hope that it won't get pruned if I bump it??.....


BTW, anyone know what happened to Dr. X???