Prediction - August 4th 2004

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rppa said:



The spirits have guided the audience to September 27, 1985. I find the following from the Washington Post archives:

Hurricane Gloria struck the east coast.

Whichever of those resonates most with you as fitting the spiritual prediction must have been the one they were talking about. The spirits are never wrong!
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Gasp! The call from the spirit world must have been my late mother-in-law. Her name was Gloria <cue eerie music>
 
I keep reading the title of this thread as 'Prediction 24 August 2004'

Is this a premonition, will something awful happen on that date, is this supernatural....paranormal...? *Cue music from the X-files*


or may be it means that I need to get the prescription on my reading glasses checked.
 
You are the real thing

I admit I'm being deliberately clumsy at the game, but I can't figure out Ed's scam -- er-- superpower. He is obviously the real thing.

OK, I said that something awful would appear in the Washington Post today. And not only today, but I predicted that it would be printed in the Metro section. Let's just check that...

Well, sadly, the story is about more deaths in Iraq. I don't want to make light of this, but here it is:
Michael M. Carey told his high school guidance counselor in Prince George County, Va., that all he wanted to be was a U.S. Marine. He was living his dream when he died Tuesday in Iraq. He was 20. The Department of Defense said Carey died after he fell into a canal and did not resurface. His body was recovered that day.

The Pentagon also announced yesterday the death in Baghdad of another soldier from the Washington region: Army Pfc. Leslie D. Jackson of Richmond.

At 18, Jackson is believed to be the youngest soldier from this region to die in Iraq. A truck driver for the 1st Cavalry Division, she was killed Thursday when her vehicle hit a roadside bomb, the Pentagon said.
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Now, how did I do this? How did I know it would be in Metro? I don't even live in Washington or see a Washington Post on a regular basis.

A skeptical nonbeliever like my wife might point out that I *did* live in Washington for 17 years, and that for virtually every morning of those 17 years we had a conversation that went something like this:

Me: Oh, this is terrible.
Her: What?
Me: This story in the Metro section.
Her: There are three or four terrible things in the Metro section every day. You just get depressed when you read it. Why do you keep reading it?
Me: I like to stay up on the local... oh no, this is really terrible.
Her: (Throws toast).

But you true believers know the Real Truth.
 
Timble said:
I keep reading the title of this thread as 'Prediction 24 August 2004'

Is this a premonition, will something awful happen on that date, is this supernatural....paranormal...? *Cue music from Dragnet*


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Illegal?



Edit to add: In the interest of accuracy I changed the music from "X-Files" to "Dragnet" in the direct quote above.
 
Ed said:


Illegal?

Edit to add: In the interest of accuracy I changed the music from "X-Files" to "Dragnet" in the direct quote above.
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No, I'm perfectly capable of being vague and dippy without smoking the 'funny' cigarettes. ;)
 
I predict that on August 4 2004 I will be another year older! :)

P.S. Go back and pick another day - don't tarnish my birthday! It is bad enough that the Terminator films picked August 4 for their Skynet doomsday!
 
Maybe it's your birthday that Luci's prediction was about. Does Luci have a grudge against you, besides the one he has against all skepticism and rationality?
 
Lucianarchy said:


Only you know if your feelings are predictions or not.

There is no "fullifment". I have already said that the perceptions are often vague, it is the fact that significant repeated correlations occur over time that warrant the recording. To juts have one correlation is perhaps lucky. But I have been able to do this over many occaisions. If you were to record yours for times, feelings and descriptions, you would perhaps be able to see if there was a pattern over chance.
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By your own admission, your prediction for February 14th was vague. Given that, why now are you so sure that your prediction referred to the Police HQ attack in Falluja, and not some other terrorist attack that was planned, but averted (and not publicised)? You do not seem to consider this possibility.
 
charva_gj said:


By your own admission, your prediction for February 14th was vague. Given that, why now are you so sure that your prediction referred to the Police HQ attack in Falluja, and not some other terrorist attack that was planned, but averted (and not publicised)? You do not seem to consider this possibility.
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Thanks for your comments, Charva.

The correlation was significant. Not very, granted. But it was never the less, significant.

'ladybrook' was 100% significant.

Other significance includes the 'Alexius' session at the Fortean Times and the other FT tests. My experient with the Edinburgh U. Psych.Dept / Koestler was very significant.

The overall pattern is highly significant.
 
Lucianarchy said:


No. You, are a cretin.
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But I made a prediction before the event. Exactly how am I a cretin? Can you explain the difference between my predictions and yours?
 
Lucianarchy said:
I percieve that something awful will occur that day. An attack on a Western target (UK, USA, Europe).
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1. I think it is a good thing that believers in paranormal powers try to prove their case.

2. I think (as many have already remarked) that the above is too vague to be of any value.
You need to define your terms, otherwise after the event you can claim practically anything as a 'hit'.

'something awful' :
- I gather you now say this will involve at least 100 deaths. Does that mean that 99 deaths will be a failure?

'that day' :
- as you know there are many timezones across the world. Do you mean that wherever the attack occurs, it will be the above day using local time?

'an attack' :
- does this mean there will be only one incident? If two (or more) bombs go off, will you add all casualties together?
- does this mean a terrorist attack? if bank robbers and police open fire in a crowded street, and there are further casualties from cars crashing, is that an 'attack'?

'a Western target (UK, USA, Europe))' :
- as has been pointed out, the UK is in Europe.
- the UK administers e.g. the Falkland Islands, Belize and Bermuda. Will all those places count as 'Western'?
- Australia, Canada and many other places are part of the Commonwealth, and owe alliegence to the Queen of England. Will all those places count as 'Western'?
- the UK has embassies all over the world. Will all those places count as 'Western'?
- Israel enters (and has won) the Eurovision song contest. Will it count as 'Western'?
- the UK has SAS soldiers working in various Gulf States. Will all those places count as 'Western'?

I haven't bothered to list all the countries where US, UK or European soldiers are currently stationed. Will all those places count as 'Western'?

Otherwise your prediction seems to be that any number of violent deaths in almost any part of the World will happen sometime when it is August 4 somewhere in the World.
 
I understand, Glee, but I can only provide what I percieve.

In case you missed it, I have already stated the following earlier on in the thread:

The 'awful' aspect of the perception seemed to project over 100 casualties (death or serious injury). I really hope I am wrong. But the perception was strong.
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I accept you may see that as 'vague'. But attacks with over 100 casualties like that are not, thankfully, every day events.
 
But attacks with over 100 casualties like that are not, thankfully, every day events.
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I've found six so far this year, which gives Luci a 0.04 probability of being right by chance, unless you're going out on a limb and saying it will be an attack, and not an accident/natural disaster. Can anyone find any others?

251 pilgrims crushed in stampedes
More than 90 (close enough) killed in fires in China
320 killed by an exploding train in Iran
550 killed by an earthquake in Morocco
191 killed in Madrid bombings
150 killed by an exploding train in Korea

I think we're on day 147 or 148 of the year.

David
 
davidhorman said:


I've found six so far this year, which gives Luci a 0.04 probability of being right by chance, unless you're going out on a limb and saying it will be an attack, and not an accident/natural disaster.

David
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How many 100 plus casualty attacks this year David? And yes, I have said the perception was of an attack, not a accident or anything. There was definately malicious intent involved.
 
In order for a prediction of a likely event to be meaningful it needs to be specific, e.g. "there will be a major earthquake this year" is no good because there's one most years; something like "there will be a major earthquake in Chile in November" is required.

If a much less likely event is being predicted, it doesn't need to be so specific to be impressive. For instance, the ghastly events of Sept 11th 2001 were a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity for any genuine psychic to prove their gift beyond doubt, because that was an event that no amount of intelligent guesswork could ever have predicted. So a psychic would not have had to predict the exact date and place, just "there will be a terrorist attack this year in the US which will result in the deaths of thousands" would have been pretty convincing proof of genuine clairvoyance. Conversely, those psychics who claim to predict the major news events at the start of every year, and who predicted the usual earthquakes and stock market volatility for 2001 and failed to mention the events of 9/11, are clearly charlatans. That's all of them, I think?

Anyway, a prediction of a terrorist attack on a stated date which will kill at least 100 people is specific enough to mildly impress me, if it comes true. I will be watching the news on August 4th with particular interest.
 
Lucianarchy said:
I understand, Glee, but I can only provide what I percieve.

In case you missed it, I have already stated the following earlier on in the thread:

I accept you may see that as 'vague'. But attacks with over 100 casualties like that are not, thankfully, every day events.
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One of the key points is what your ability allows you to do. You need to state as much as possible before the event what constitutes a 'hit'. (Afterwards is not helpful.)

I accept that you are predicting over 100 casualties. You therefore agree that 99 would be a miss?

In case you missed it, what I consider 'vague' is, for example, your definition of 'a Western target'.
Is Belize 'a Western target'?
Is Australia 'a Western target'?
Is Israel 'a Western target'?

And thankfully attacks with over 100 casualties are not a daily occurrence. But they do happen. If one happens on Aug 3 (GMT), will you claim that as a hit? If Aug 3 (GMT) is Aug 4 (local time elsewhere), is that a hit?
If there is a rail crash in the UK, and there are unproven allegations of sabotage, is that a hit?
 
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