Pope confirms Roman Catholic Church separation
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c4ts said:
But it kinda undermines the entire point of having an organized religion. If religion is really so uncertain that science and society can alter it so much, then shouldnt religion be just a personal spiritual search of individuals, and not organized. If society can descover that divorce is ok with god, what purpose does the church hierarchy serve?
K-W said:
The church hierarchy hasn't had a purpose since the middle ages as far as I'm concerned. I'd rather they'd stop fighting about it. One of the most fundamental flaws with Christianity is that each particular doctrine's defense becomes a pre-emptive strike on another. A particular form of Christianity's adherence to there being only one way of doing things may be a kind of defense against other relgions stealing their members, which is not quite the threat it was when politics and religion were inseperable. Co-operation, the ability to adapt to the world instead of reject it, should help to undermine this defensive mentality, but I could be mistaken. Still, I'd still prefer that they do not get into stupid fights about it. We need fewer Jedis and Musclemen, not more of them.
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c4ts, you're expecting a great deal from an entity which evolved through little opposition. (No, I'm not counting the time from before the split with the Eastern Orthodox Church.) You're dealing with the 400 lb. gorilla on the block, which hasn't had to take a back seat to anyone for nearly 1000 years. Even when it was facing Suleyman the Magnificent approaching the gates of Vienna, Rome was pretty much the one which called the shots in Europe. This has bred some pretty strange attitudes and activities, including the Antipopes, the possibility one Pope may have aided and abetted the Nazis during the Holocaust, and more recently, the pedophile preists. ANYONE ELSE confronted with individuals within their organization molesting kids would have had such people drawn and quartered, or at least dissociated themselves from them. The Roman Catholic Church defends them and hides them. Why?
Anyone else, facing what the Church has faced in recent years, would have made good faith efforts to fix the damage done, and to right what was wrong. The Church has been burying its head in the sand and trying blame the victims from what I could see.
The Catholic Church claims you can't be taking Communion from just anyone, it's got to be a Catholic Priest. Why are you surprised by this? These guys haven't had to adapt. Why should they change now?
Adaptation would be smart, it would be wise, it would even be Christian. But it wouldn't be "Catholic."
Anyone else, facing what the Church has faced in recent years, would have made good faith efforts to fix the damage done, and to right what was wrong. The Church has been burying its head in the sand and trying blame the victims from what I could see.
The Catholic Church claims you can't be taking Communion from just anyone, it's got to be a Catholic Priest. Why are you surprised by this? These guys haven't had to adapt. Why should they change now?
Adaptation would be smart, it would be wise, it would even be Christian. But it wouldn't be "Catholic."