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Poor Karla!

Her first act as a free woman - the same woman who wanted a ban on media coverage - was to give an interview.

It is in French (terrible French, I had trouble understanding) but there are subtitles and a summary. She continues to absolve herself of all responsibility - she was merely a "follower", not an adult (she was a married woman!).

I am very very angry.

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I am betting a bookdeal wont be far behind.

Is there a law in Canada about profiting from crimes?
 
I'm completely for the publication of her name, several thousand photographs posted and even broadcasted to televisions everywhere she travels. Along with detailing her crime, her story, and her exact locale at any given moment as reported by the gps transponder she should have to wear on her ankle. I guess I would submit to a tiny-print warning at the very bottom that harming her is a naughty thing to do.

This is one of the many reasons I feel this way:

http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/07/04/idaho.children/index.html

Read about this little girl, her late brothers and mother, and the guy she was with when they found her. He did his time too.

You want sympathy for this kind of scum? You won't find it in me. You want rational debate? Not today.
 
Another story about poor, little Karla.

Bitch.

And, yes, I saw that story about the missing boy. Why do I feel that the SOB who killed him will likely get a light sentence? That someone will make some outrageous claim about the dad, or that someone will say society is at fault for creating such monsters?

I need a stiff drink of Jack.
 
TruthSeeker said:
I believe she is prohibited from profiting from her crimes but I'm not sure.
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It is illegal in Canada to profit from your crimes...I believe that law was enacted, iirc, after Clifford Olsen tried to sign a book deal.

she is also prohibited from talking about the details, I think it was part of her bargain with the Crown.
 
TruthSeeker said:
Her first act as a free woman - the same woman who wanted a ban on media coverage - was to give an interview.
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Only a few hours after her lawyers tried a second time to get an injunction.

It is in French (terrible French, I had trouble understanding) but there are subtitles and a summary. She continues to absolve herself of all responsibility - she was merely a "follower", not an adult (she was a married woman!).
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I agree, the French was awful, not 'slightly accented' - she didn't know the word for 'minivan'!

Apparently one of the conditions of her release is that she seek counselling, with the goal of eliminating her perception of herself as a victim...If she hasn't figured it out in 12 years, she isn't going to figure it out in one.

"I don't want people hounding me" my @ss! If you don't kill teenage girls, you won't be hounded!

I think part of the problem was the destruction of the videotapes - I think it helped people forget to what extent she participated. IIRC, it was the first time in the Canadian justice system that evidence in a murder trial has been destroyed.
 
I think part of the problem was the destruction of the videotapes - I think it helped people forget to what extent she participated. IIRC, it was the first time in the Canadian justice system that evidence in a murder trial has been destroyed.
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I've never heard of that. Why would they destroy it?
 
In December, 2001, Canadian authorities determined that there was no possible future use of the videotapes. The six videotapes depicting the torture and rape of Bernardo and Homolka's victims were destroyed. The disposition of the tapes of Homolka watching and commenting on the tapes remains sealed.

Stephen Williams indicated in his book, Invisible Darkness that the tapes may still be available in some "underground circles" at very high prices. Although this seems sensational, there may be some truth to it. Stephen Williams himself has sold some segments of video to Home Box Office for use in their program "Autopsy". Home Box Office did air very short segments of the rape of Tammy Lyn Homolka during their program "Autopsy 8". On May 4, 2003 Williams was arrested for numerous charges, including the publication of courtroom exhibits used in the trials.

Although these tapes have been described as snuff films, this description is not strictly accurate. The videotapes do not show any deaths; they show violent crimes and the infliction of injuries that ultimately caused one death but no moment of death was pictured.
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From Wikipedia
 
Thanks, JAS. I would hope that in the future they hold on to these things longer.

I can appreciate that the material is sensitive, and storage must be a real headache. But who knows when or why these kinds of materials might be needed again?
 
Serial Killer

Oh, the poor serial killer. Boo hoo hoo.

Sometimes the things we do have consequences. It is hoped that she will have the most horrible ones imaginable for what she did.

Take her out and dump her. But just make sure it is widely publicized. I think justice will probably then be done.
 
At the risk of sounding callous and uncaring here (which I'm not) I heard on the radio the other day that Quebec and Ontario made a trade. Quebec gave us Jean Chretien, Ontario gave them Karla Holmoka. Now they have both. Pity the poor Quebecers.
 
Darat said:
I'm also perplexed by this idea that a court has said she could still be a danger and yet she is being released?

Why is she being released if she is still considered a danger?
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Because when charges were being laid against Paul Bernardo, the crown, in their infinite wisdom, decided that Karla was just another victim in all of this, following her pyschopathic husband like a mindless zombie. Thus, the deal was struck to limit her prison time.

But then it would seem, two things were overlooked back then. Firstly, that 12 years really isn't that long a sentence when you're dealing with a crime like this, and before anyone realizes it, Karla will be back in society.
And the second thing overlooked is that maybe Karla is just as bad as her husband Paul who is serving a life sentence. I think everyone expected years of tearful interviews where she apologizes profusely for her crimes and makes us all think that she really is sorry for what happened. And we're all supposed to acknowledge her plight, pat her on the back and wish all the best of luck in her new life.

Karla should be locked up for life, plain and simple, but the crown has only themselves to thank for this.
She did her time and now is free.
 
Badger said:
Unbelievable, at least to me.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Law/2005/07/05/1118281-cp.html
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Stupid frogs (i'm a frog, so can say that).

While doing her time, Homolka even picked up elements of a working-class Quebecois accent mixed with her anglophone pronunciation.
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Translation? Her grammar sucks.

Jeff Dobeau, a pierced and tattooed man in his 20s, predicted an easy transition for Homolka, who has a competent handle on the French language.

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"I don't know Toronto, but I think we Quebecers are more ready to accept her," Dobeau said.

"There is an openness of spirit. We forgive more easily. But at the same time, we remember. And I know it's a bit strange to say, but I find her French charming."
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On behalf of pierced and tattooed people everywhere, this guy is a moron.

"It's okay that she was an active participant, and possibly the instigator of the rape & murder of two girls, including her sister, she seems kind of nice, and apparently got a degree in prison. good for her".

I can't believe that people would fall for that. Astonishing.

Do you have any extra barf bags handy, Roadtoad?
 
KelvinG said:
Because when charges were being laid against Paul Bernardo, the crown, in their infinite wisdom, decided that Karla was just another victim in all of this, following her pyschopathic husband like a mindless zombie.
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Also, they didn't have the tapes at the time that they struck the deal, so weren't fully aware of the extent of her involvement. Although, later, when the tapes were found, they had to opportunity to renege on the deal, given the new evidence, but for some reason, chose not to.

Now Paul is saying that it was all her idea, that he wanted to release Leslie Mahaffy.

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Bryant said his client wants people to know that it was his intention to set the rape victim free and that it was Homolka who panicked, despite her efforts to present herself as a submissive, battered woman acting on Bernardo's whims.
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Jas said:
Stupid frogs (i'm a frog, so can say that).



Translation? Her grammar sucks.



On behalf of pierced and tattooed people everywhere, this guy is a moron.

"It's okay that she was an active participant, and possibly the instigator of the rape & murder of two girls, including her sister, she seems kind of nice, and apparently got a degree in prison. good for her".

I can't believe that people would fall for that. Astonishing.

Do you have any extra barf bags handy, Roadtoad?
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Oh, Jaz, maybe he isn't such a moron. I mean, that's exactly what I'd say if I wanted to pick her up in a bar or at Tim Horton's and take her for a boatride on the St. Lawrence (along with a roll of chickenwire and a few concrete blocks, or perhaps a woodchipper a la "Fargo").

Anyway, she's out, so you Montrealers better keep your kids safe. Watch out for self-righteous, psychopathic bimbo's, sucking back iced cappucinos who can't speak french but insist on doing so anyway.



Edited to add the iced cap bit.
 
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