Plane Crash In DC

a_unique_person said:
What sort of fight path in a busy central city location is 200 ft right across a landing path for jets. That's about 30 metres.
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Vertical separation is the most common way to deconflict cross traffic, although not ordinarily by such minimums. As I may have mentioned before, military traffic from Hill AFB near where I live (F-22s and F-35s) must cross the northern approach to KSLC routinely to get to its operation area. That's accomplished mostly by vertical separation. If helicopters in the flight corridor are limited to 200 feet, this would help.

jt512 said:
I need to correct this statement. Looking at the legend of the helicopter chart for the D.C. area, the altitudes along the route are listed as recommended maximums, so apparently the helicopter pilot has no legal duty to abide by them.
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Puzzling. I also initially read those as mandatory. The radar track I've seen shows that the helicopter climbed from 200 ft to 400 ft in the final few seconds before the collision. Seems like those should be mandatory, as you suggest.
 
Tero said:
The helicopter that crashed had a crew of three. The pilot's name has already been released. The other two were a man and a woman. Hegseth, an alcoholic, is now the head of the defense forces. Next, Trump will order women out of all possible aviation jobs. They will be allowed to travel to different bases in planes. Maybe they will even be allowed to maintain aircraft. That helicopter took off from an army base on the outskirts of the capital. Davidson, Virginia.
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A blonde fixing her lipstick in the rearview mirror?


I'll get my coat.
 
smartcooky said:
I have been often been criticised here for posting a video without giving any summary of what it contains.

So what happens when I do give a short summary of the new information? Someone like you comes along and mistakes my summary for an opinion.

Sometimes, I wonder why I even bother! :mad:
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I think jt is just critiquing the other guy's analysis.
 
Donald has it all sorted. No investigation needed.

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump

The Black Hawk helicopter was flying too high, by a lot. It was far above the 200 foot limit. That’s not really too complicated to understand, is it???
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so it was the dei hire military pilot, not the dei hire air traffic controller
 
Pull the service records for the helicopter. Maybe it was a DEI hire.

What colour of hawk did you say again?
 
Gulliver Foyle said:
Yeah they'll mandate that commercial flights will need to take a much more difficult landing approach so as to not inconvenience them.
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Nah, that's silly. They'll mandate the building a new airport, just for Congressional use (Republicans only). To be named after Trump, of course. It can be paid for with all the money they're going to save by firing the entire civil service. Musk will provide an AI air traffic control and self-flying planes. He's already helped himself to the direct payment systems of the US Treasury so he can just take what he needs, no need to bother with writing a check, even!
 
Hopefully people pause to ask why a plane crash is instantly politicized? Social media has become a psyops science project to see who takes the bait and runs with it.

And yes, Trump sucks. This is why you need to let the FAA and NTSB handle the press conferences, and keep the White House rhetoric to "thoughts and prayers", and "we offer full support to the responding agencies". But here we are.
 
Trump's plan is to consolidate all government power in the White House. That's why he has to be seen to be in charge of all the details of everything. He wants to show that the existing bureaucracy is useless at best and dangerous at worst.
 
Resume said:
He used common sense, something many people don't have.

Did you know that Abe Lincoln was a republican?

Most people don't know that.
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[The Orange Blob]He was a RINO and he had no common sense! And he abolished slavery, the worst thing any president ever did! I'll bring it back, and better than ever![/The Orange Blob]
 
With the njews abot the pilot flying above the 200foot limit a lot of people at Fort Belvoir are going to have some 'splanin to do.
The military operates on the principal of if it happened on your watch, you are responsbile. If one of people under you messed up, it is still your responsibltiy since you should have spotted the problem early, and taken masures to correct it.
 
200 feet is a low altitude to fly over a populated area, even if you're skirting the river bank. I live near two major hospitals, so I have some experience with low-flying helicopters. There will be some pressure from residents for the helicopters to fly higher, or as high as allowed in order to cut down the noise.
 
JayUtah said:
200 feet is a low altitude to fly over a populated area, even if you're skirting the river bank. I live near two major hospitals, so I have some experience with low-flying helicopters. There will be some pressure from residents for the helicopters to fly higher, or as high as allowed in order to cut down the noise.
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Most of the areas affected would be military though wouldn't it? The north/south route starts around the Jefferson Memorial, goes over a golf area, with Fort McNair to the east and DCA to the west. Further south you get to the Joint Base area.
 
JayUtah said:
Trump's plan is to consolidate all government power in the White House. That's why he has to be seen to be in charge of all the details of everything. He wants to show that the existing bureaucracy is useless at best and dangerous at worst.
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Can we get a constant, continuous stream of questions going to the White House, please:
  • Where is your investigation up to?
  • Can you give us more technical details?
  • What conclusions have you reached?
  • Who was responsible?
  • What did they do wrong?
  • Is someone going to be punished as a result?
  • What changes are going to be made?
  • Who is going to oversee those changes?
  • When us this going to happen?
And so on. Flood his zone with crap.
 
REPORTER: Do you have any concerns that your commentary about things you described as common sense or your observations could in any way interfere with the thorough investigation of the crash?

TRUMP: No. I think they'll do an investigation and it'll probably come out the way I said it, I was right on all of it.
 
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