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Pizzagate

Abooga said:
In this thread, the only one in the forum it has hardly been reviewed. I posted some things and got flamed for "spreading the lies and putting people in danger".
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So we're supposed to beat a dead horse that's been well and truly beaten elsewhere on the internet already, or we're no better than the conspiracy theorists? :eye-poppi
 
Abooga said:
In this thread, the only one in the forum it has hardly been reviewed. I posted some things and got flamed for "spreading the lies and putting people in danger".
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Misrepresentation. You didn't just "post some things". You posted images and innuendo and, aside from a few weasel words, strongly hinted that they indicated that there was maybe something to the accusations.

That's what you were called on.
 
Porpoise of Life said:
What evidence? There is no evidence.
If you have evidence, then lay it out. And if you use the same old cop-out that you're not making any claims, then stop complaining we're denying evidence.
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Not evidence. "Evidence".

"Evidence" for this CT is in the links I provided. Feel free to debunk it. Just pick a claim explain why it´s false. It´s easy, most of the claims /connections are downright silly.

Or keep repeating "There is no evidence, there is no evidence!!". But that´s boring, and not very constructive.
 
I'm curious why The Hair's behavior of actually sexually assaulting women, bragging about it, combined with his comments about Miss Teen USA haven't met with such scrutiny. Maybe the purveyors of this nonsense should drop any pretense about concern for children.
 
Abooga said:
Not evidence. "Evidence".

"Evidence" for this CT is in the links I provided. Feel free to debunk it. Just pick a claim explain why it´s false. It´s easy, most of the claims /connections are downright silly.

Or keep repeating "There is no evidence, there is no evidence!!". But that´s boring, and not very constructive.
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What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
 
Abooga said:
Not evidence. "Evidence".

"Evidence" for this CT is in the links I provided. Feel free to debunk it. Just pick a claim explain why it´s false. It´s easy, most of the claims /connections are downright silly.

Or keep repeating "There is no evidence, there is no evidence!!". But that´s boring, and not very constructive.
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Can you establish that Mr. Podesta, the owners or operators of the pizzeria or the Clinton's violated any Maryland Statutes covering sexual assault or indecency with a minor? Can you establish that any of the above violated Title 18 of US Code regarding soliciting or conspiring to engage in indecent acts with children over wire?
 
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Craig4 said:
I'm curious why The Hair's behavior of actually sexually assaulting women, bragging about it, combined with his comments about Miss Teen USA haven't met with such scrutiny. Maybe the purveyors of this nonsense should drop any pretense about concern for children.
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The amount of source material is really endless, such as the 1994 lifestyles of the rich and famous interview.
 
Abooga said:
Not evidence. "Evidence".

"Evidence" for this CT is in the links I provided. Feel free to debunk it. Just pick a claim explain why it´s false. It´s easy, most of the claims /connections are downright silly.

Or keep repeating "There is no evidence, there is no evidence!!". But that´s boring, and not very constructive.
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Calling this horse poop evidence is what's not constructive. There is nothing to debunk. We've told you this repeatedly, but you keep insisting that the owner's taste in paintings, music and clientele must be evidence for 'something', right before you turn around and say that you never meant to claim anything when asked what this 'something' might be.

If it is evidence, then you should be able to say what it is evidence of, and why. But you won't.
We've tried to discuss it with you. You post 'evidence', we ask you how that would be evidence, and then you just say 'sorry, I'm not making the claim'.
 
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Craig4 said:
I'm curious why The Hair's behavior of actually sexually assaulting women, bragging about it, combined with his comments about Miss Teen USA haven't met with such scrutiny. Maybe the purveyors of this nonsense should drop any pretense about concern for children.
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Again I can't speak for everyone but I couldn't care less TBH, my whole point in all of this has been that if there is ever any evidence that someone in a position of power is implicated in any wrong doing they should be prosecuted according to the law. Time and time again we see stuff like this get brushed under the carpet when it involves someone in a position of power, for example the allegations regarding Prince Andrew during the Epstein trial. Even though in his case there was a specific allegation from someone who was groomed and later forced to have sex with him. "Allegedly" before you all go ape.
 
Spins said:
Again I can't speak for everyone but I couldn't care less TBH, my whole point in all of this has been that if there is ever any evidence that someone in a position of power is implicated in any wrong doing they should be prosecuted according to the law. Time and time again we see stuff like this get brushed under the carpet when it involves someone in a position of power, for example the allegations regarding Prince Andrew during the Epstein trial. Even though in his case there was a specific allegation from someone who was groomed and later forced to have sex with him. "Allegedly" before you all go ape.
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Can you prove any of the conversations relate to the sexual assault of children?

And why aren't you as concerned about someone who admitted sexually assaulting women and had access to teen beauty pageant contestants?
 
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Argumemnon said:
Misrepresentation. You didn't just "post some things". You posted images and innuendo and, aside from a few weasel words, strongly hinted that they indicated that there was maybe something to the accusations.
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When I saw the accumulation of "coincidences" that were being presented as "evidence", I admit I thought is was a bit too much that would be expected by randomnes. The art by Biljana Djurdjevic, the favourite artist of John Podesta is downright creepy. In her website (last time I checked), the creepy pictures are not just a few from a lesser known series, they are the norm. That does make me look at John Podesta with some suspicion, by itself. There is the Majestic Ape weirdness and some other stuff, which all together, did look weird IMO. So by posting here I just wanted to shed some light on it.

Since then I´ve seen that some of the "evidence" presented is false or wrongly presented, the people presenting it lack any scepticism whatsoever etc. so now I tend even more towards thinking it´s BS. I still thought interesting to investigate whether some of it was a fabricated, orchestrated "fake news" style operation by some obscure anti-Clinton player, a different but still interesting kind of CT.
 
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RussDill said:
I remember reading in school about the Salem which trials and wondering how so many people could go collectively insane in such a damaging and vindictive way. Now I don't have to wonder anymore. It's only a matter of time before one of these vindictive witch hunts based ends in a vigilante not just terrorizing men, women, and children, but actually killing someone.
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I'm actually reading a book on this right now.

They'd use "Spectral Stabbing". Hilarious if it weren't true. People without weapons stabbing aimlessly in the air bragging about killing witches that weren't present.
 
Abooga said:
When I saw the accumulation of "coincidences" that were being presented as "evidence", I admit I thought is was a bit too much that would be expected by randomnes. The art by Biljana Djurdjevic, the favourite artist of John Podesta is downright creepy. In her website (last time I checked), the creepy pictures are not just a few from a lesser known series, they are the norm. That does make me look at John Podesta with some suspicion, by itself.
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And there we have something to work with: why does it make you suspicious?
 
Biljana Djurdjevic is certainly not to my taste but his work is hardly pornographic. How do we know that she is Podesta's favorite artist?
 
Abooga said:
When I saw the accumulation of "coincidences" that were being presented as "evidence", I admit I thought is was a bit too much that would be expected by randomnes. The art by Biljana Djurdjevic, the favourite artist of John Podesta is downright creepy. In her website (last time I checked), the creepy pictures are not just a few from a lesser known series, they are the norm. That does make me look at John Podesta with some suspicion, by itself. There is the Majestic Ape weirdness and some other stuff, which all together, did look weird IMO. So by posting here I just wanted to shed some light on it.
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Did you calculate the number of expected coincidences and then examine other places of business as a control? How can you say there are too many coincidences if you don't know how many coincidences are normal?
 
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