Pink Slime

phiwum said:
Thanks for the cited taste test.

It would have been nice if it had been a blind test, but it's better than nothing.
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There have been many taste test of this product. Some were done by the USDA on children. Passed with flying colors as being better than the normal stuff. So there is no argument there.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Maybe, but what about Joey's insistence I'm a liar and really didn't have a problem with the texture of burger with this stuff in it?
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What the ****? I totally believe that you believe that...

And what about his insistence that everything put out by the main producer is honest science?
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Independent experts AND the USDA are wrong? They put out a statement saying there is no connective tissue and it is the exact same thing... somehow YOU are insisting that I only quote the company... so funny.

What about his insistence the stuff is just trim, when it isn't just "trim" but it is trim further from the muscle? And his denial the stuff is any different from the rest of the burger?
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You post in this thread but you clearly do not read it properly.
 
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Red Baron Farms said:
It's not really a schtick. I simply don't comment usually unless it is related. You think you are weary? You don't even know what weary is till you try to explain how unhealthy and dangerous CAFOs and EVERYTHING associated around them are to people, the environment, the economy, AGW, the animals..it is ridiculous. But I generally get the equivalent of blank stares, or some crazy that agrees, but because they are some hippy that went VEGAN and thinks humans are herbivores:rolleyes:.....which doesn't help much at all.

Now the fact of the matter is I seriously doubt pink slime, nasty as it is, has any worse effect on health or the environment as any other industrial meat product. However, there is an important logic fallacy taking place when someone claims that being "just as safe as" means safe.

Jumping off a building without a parachute is "just as safe" as jumping off a building with an umbrella. But neither is safe, they are equally unsafe.

The consumers that understand for whatever reason they don't want pink slime in their food, shouldn't be forced into guessing. It needs to be clearly labeled. That's the bottom line.
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I find this very funny.
 
I would definitely know if someone put pink slime in my MacDonalds!

My taste buds are amazing. They get even better when I have had a few beers.
 
Skeptic Ginger said:
Any evidence for that fantasy, Casebro?
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The USDA has published a lot on this subject. Do you still think they were paid off with board seat at BPI in order to make those statements? For some reason you think you can ignore their statements hmmmmmm
 
angrysoba said:
I would definitely know if someone put pink slime in my MacDonalds!

My taste buds are amazing. They get even better when I have had a few beers.
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The most double cheeseburgers I have ordered at once is 35.

I need to be drunk to do that. Not as drunk as I need to be in order to post in this thread, but close.
 
I like this thread because it is so stupid. We're arguing about the difference between beef and beef. Hundreds of people lost their jobs. And people want to babble about their beliefs without bothing to make it coherent, relative or factual. It's the perfect mix of stupidity, ignorance and conspiracy theory that makes this forum great. Thanks for playing.
 
GlennB said:
For once, in this thread, I'll heartily agree with JoeMac. RBF always tries to turn the discussion to the evils of modern beef production methods in general, and in this case misses the point entirely.

RBF - folks get weary of that schtick of yours. Really.
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Aw **** you blew it. That running gag was never gong to get old! Now you've chimed in and they are less likely to keep posting the same humiliating nonsense thinking they are getting my goat, thus spoiling my free source of entertainment.

Goddamn
 
Joey McGee said:
I like this thread because it is so stupid. We're arguing about the difference between beef and beef.
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Would you say that about people who insist there is a taste difference between canned vs. fresh fruit?

They extract this residual meat with a centrifuge, heat it, treat it with ammonia, and freeze it. Do you seriously maintain such processing won't affect the flavor of the end product?
 
ThunderChunky said:
I've encountered ground beef from multiple sources that contained chewy bits but was not made with LFTB.
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Sactly. The quality of the rest of the cheap ground beef is going to have a lot more to do with the texture than the 10% slime.

And if the industry did a double blind test, you bet they used a better quality base to mix the stuff into.

And we can't replicate their study because we can't buy the pure product.
 
casebro said:
And we can't replicate their study because we can't buy the pure product.
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This is sadly proving to be the case. It seems like I won't be able to easily get a hold of any. It would be interesting to discover if low grade, cheap ground beef has the same issues as the original testing when mixed with lftb.

Also, all the food service cooks I've told my idea to have thought it a good idea and are curious. Hopefully at least on of them is as curious as I am, and tries it if they get their hands on some cans of lftb.

EDIT: Oh, and I misstated my father's job position earlier. He's a business analyst for a food supplier, not a buyer any longer.
 
ehcks said:
I generally don't have to prove my own personal preferences.

But hey, give me a double-blind taste test and I'll see if I'm right or not.
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There are of course taste tests that have been done by independent organizations paid for by bpi. It has been claimed of course that these organizations are not to be trusted as if they all have taken payment to falsify the results.

http://beefisbeef.com/about-lftb
 
Charlie Wilkes said:
Would you say that about people who insist there is a taste difference between canned vs. fresh fruit?

They extract this residual meat with a centrifuge, heat it, treat it with ammonia, and freeze it. Do you seriously maintain such processing won't affect the flavor of the end product?
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This argument is nonsensical and ineffective. Perhaps you have missed the point that the vast majority of people find the product to taste better and have a better texture in blinded tests. Therefore it is reasonable to say that it does not affect the taste negatively. I doubt anyone who believes they are tasting a difference negatively is actually doing so in an unbiased way.

 
Joey McGee said:
This argument is nonsensical and ineffective. Perhaps you have missed the point that the vast majority of people find the product to taste better and have a better texture in blinded tests. Therefore it is reasonable to say that it does not affect the taste negatively. I doubt anyone who believes they are tasting a difference negatively is actually doing so in an unbiased way.

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Heh. Your video clip would be more convincing if people couldn't tell the difference between fresh tomato (compare to ground beef) vs. canned tomato (compare to processed pink slime).
 
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