Marvel Frozen
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When I was younger I could run a mile in close to 6 minutes. Now I'd be lucky to beat 10 minutes.
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Nice of you to answer your own question, but you're wrong. I've seen it many times.wipeout said:
And I'm not seriously suggesting that Suezoled run until she throws up. Lighten up.
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Puking after strenuous exercise is a result of "lactate poisoning". Different people have different tolerance levels but everyone can experience the feeling if after a week of inaction goes to the gym and does 2 sets of 20 for every big muscle group.
El Greco said:
Yet I read in some of those runner/workout magazines (yes, I know, such a consistently reliable source) that in order to be able to run without injury in the long term, muscle that is not worked so much when running must be worked in other ways, like weight lifting, to "even it all out."
The assertion was that running uses some muscles. If you don't exercise the muscles running doesn't touch, you risk greater injury because you've become "unbalanced;" too powerful in one group of muscles.
Hm, looking at this, it seems to make less sense than when I read it...
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Suezoled said:
This is a long subject, but in general, running without injuries has little to do with running as fast as you can. Many times, a balanced exercise program will compromise your running performance. In general, depending on the sport, there are some training regimes designed specifically in order to overcome SAID. In such training programs a very important parameter is the transfer of training result which is a measure of how effective the training is in improving sport-specific performance.
I could go on for ever here, but a good book on these things is Zatsiorsky's "Science and practice of strength training".
Michael Redman said:
Nicer still of me to give basic but useful information about heartrates too. Anyhow, I've seen enough sport to know that athletes throwing up from the physical stress of competition must be very rare as I've never seen it happen. I've seen just about everything else, but never that.
The point here is that if professionals don't it (or, at most, rarely), there's no need for amateurs to even get close.
My post used terms like "puke-free" and ends with a --->
Perhaps not completely serious itself, it would seem.
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wipeout said:
200 bpm is hardly the human maximum. Many bike racers, both amateur and professional see numbers equal to or slightly higher than that.
Yep, BillyJoe just said what I've read as well.
That's terror for you.
Actually, I know they did a heartrate study in F1 in 1982 which showed one driver getting up to 210 BPM briefly. It's at the end of Prof. Sid Watkins first book on medicine in F1.
For exercise, as far as I know from reading cycling magazines, the limit young adults would be looking at is 190 to 200 BPM but they don't need to go anywhere near that to train unless they are sprinting or something.
John Harrison said:
That's terror for you.
Actually, I know they did a heartrate study in F1 in 1982 which showed one driver getting up to 210 BPM briefly. It's at the end of Prof. Sid Watkins first book on medicine in F1.For exercise, as far as I know from reading cycling magazines, the limit young adults would be looking at is 190 to 200 BPM but they don't need to go anywhere near that to train unless they are sprinting or something.
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A lot of it is conditioned by individual talents and capabilities as well. I understand Lance Armstrong can maintain 190 + through an hour-long time time trial.
He supposedly has an incredible tolerance to lactic acid buildup.
He supposedly has an incredible tolerance to lactic acid buildup.
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I guess I missed thewipeout said:My post used terms like "puke-free" and ends with a --->
.Bikewer said:
Yeah, here's the stats from Armstrong's official website, including the time trial one you mention:
Another 5 times tour winner, Miguel Indurain, had a resting heartrate of 28 BPM and his recovery rate of his heart was 190 BPM (at the top of a climb) down to 60 BPM (starting the descent) in 30 seconds!
No wonder he was called an alien by the other riders.
I didn't start running till I was about 27. Then I ran on average 3 miles a day till I was about 45, with about a 2 year gap after a knee injury. Osteo arthritis in both knees finally put an end to running in 2001.
My advice is stay off tarmac, concrete or steel surfaces. (I ran a lot on offshore helidecks. Not good.)
Certainly, noone sprints a mile. In my mid thirties, I could crank 8 miles in about 52 minutes. That wasn't sprinting, it was letting the power flow nice and steadily. I never ran against anyone, but I Thought I was pretty good, till one day I was passed by a UK Commonwealth runner (female), who went by me so fast I was nearly sucked off my feet by the vortex.
I still enjoyed running after that, but somehow it was never quite the same.
Look after your body. Soft surfaces, good shoes. Warm up properly and learn how to stretch. Drink plenty water, before you get thirsty. And run with a friend. It's twice the fun.
My advice is stay off tarmac, concrete or steel surfaces. (I ran a lot on offshore helidecks. Not good.)
Certainly, noone sprints a mile. In my mid thirties, I could crank 8 miles in about 52 minutes. That wasn't sprinting, it was letting the power flow nice and steadily. I never ran against anyone, but I Thought I was pretty good, till one day I was passed by a UK Commonwealth runner (female), who went by me so fast I was nearly sucked off my feet by the vortex.
I still enjoyed running after that, but somehow it was never quite the same.
Look after your body. Soft surfaces, good shoes. Warm up properly and learn how to stretch. Drink plenty water, before you get thirsty. And run with a friend. It's twice the fun.