Orgasm device

[tracer]

What's wrong with a good old fashioned vibrator applied you-know-where?

You mean, the back seat of a Volkswagen?

</Mallrats>

 

[TruthSeeker]

You mean, the back seat of a Volkswagen?

</Mallrats>

Yes, that's exactly what I meant. Do you know of a better place?

 

[espritch]

Hmmm, but I bet you all will claim you have a nice healthy balance.

Actually, no honest man would ever claim any such thing.

All I know is, if God had meant for men to masturbate, he would have given us hands and external genitals…oh wait. Never mind.

 

[Iamme]

Eos---Use it or lose it? When I read that, I found myself having the urge to cross my legs, while the hair on my arms stood on end.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

Ah don't worry guys, I'm sure you won't miss your brains, cause you'll still have what you use 90% of the time

Hey, did you know the muscles that make your arm hairs stand on end are called erector pilli?

Somehow, that's like an appropriate reaction

 

[Eos of the Eons]

double post, ack

 

[espritch]

Yes, and when we are young, we like to play with erector sets. I guess our minds just start out in the gutter from the get go and stay there. Now what's your excuse.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

Yes, and when we are young, we like to play with erector sets. I guess our minds just start out in the gutter from the get go and stay there. Now what's your excuse.

I don't know, I guess I've been influenced

 

[aerosolben]

The idea that "You're not going to stimulate anything in the pelvis by stimulating the ankle" shows complete ignorance of psychological possibilities, and more specifically, fetish psychology.

Perhaps you missed the sentence from the article immediately following the one you quoted, which says:

Barrett suggested the device might work by suggestion, or some secondary effect like relaxing its wearer.

This clearly includes psychological effects. Barrett merely says that pelvic stimulation by the device is a far-fetched claim.

 

[Zep]

<h1>Hey, you people! GET A ROOM!</h1>

 

[Suggestologist]

Perhaps you missed the sentence from the article immediately following the one you quoted, which says:

Barrett suggested the device might work by suggestion, or some secondary effect like relaxing its wearer.

This clearly includes psychological effects. Barrett merely says that pelvic stimulation by the device is a far-fetched claim.

Calling relaxation a "secondary effect" is his attempt to downgrade it's utility. You may as well call what viagra does a "tertiary effect".

Furthermore, we don't know how the brain is wired up. It may be a fact that the ankles are a naturally erogenous zone for many women. Dismissing the possibility because he "can't see how" is silly -- and demonstrates more than just the ignorance of how the brain functions that everyone has right now.

 

[sorgoth]

Actually, no honest man would ever claim any such thing.

All I know is, if God had meant for men to masturbate, he would have given us hands and external genitals…oh wait. Never mind.

Heh.

Hey, you people! GET A ROOM!

Remember...chances are, mostly everyone here IS in a room, probably by themselves.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

Calling relaxation a "secondary effect" is his attempt to downgrade it's utility. You may as well call what viagra does a "tertiary effect".

Furthermore, we don't know how the brain is wired up. It may be a fact that the ankles are a naturally erogenous zone for many women. Dismissing the possibility because he "can't see how" is silly -- and demonstrates more than just the ignorance of how the brain functions that everyone has right now.

Pfft, hahahahaha! And this electric doo dadd is supposed to be anything close to a well placed touch or lick or....
Those dumb plastic pads will just never learn 'how I like it'

 

[aerosolben]

Calling relaxation a "secondary effect" is his attempt to downgrade it's utility.

It's his attempt to categorize it correctly. Seeing leather on someone is not stimulating in and of itself; brain sees leather, brain associates leather with previous experience, association triggers pleasure.

You may as well call what viagra does a "tertiary effect".

Viagra relaxes muscles in the penis directly to improve blood flow. This is very direct. So is direct stimulation of the genitals.

Stimulation of the ankle, on the other hand, is probably causes stimulation via a mental association with some other object/context/etc which is directly stimulating. This, I think, is the point.

Furthermore, we don't know how the brain is wired up. It may be a fact that the ankles are a naturally erogenous zone for many women. Dismissing the possibility because he "can't see how" is silly -- and demonstrates more than just the ignorance of how the brain functions that everyone has right now.

It's possible, but it seems unlikely. The ankles are highly dissimilar from other erogenous zones. Based on the current body of knowledge, it seems appropriate to lean towards 'ankles are not natural erogenous zones'. However, I would encourage research into it. People want to know.

 

[tracer]

Stimulation of the ankle, on the other hand, is probably causes stimulation via a mental association with some other object/context/etc which is directly stimulating. This, I think, is the point.

You are assuming that because the devices are worn on the ankles, they only stimulate the ankles.

These devices put a weak electric current through the body. If the gizmo on your left ankle is "+" (or A.C. "hot"), and the gizmo on your right ankle is "-" (or A.C. "neutral"), then the electric current will flow up one leg, through your groin area, and down the other leg.

Thus it may stimulate not only the two ankles, but everything between them.

 

[UKBoy1977]

Going off on a tangent here but can anyone explain the following?

Why is it that in today's society it is perfectly acceptable and normal for women to use vibrators yet if a man was to admit he regularly had sex with a fake vagina he ordered from a mail order porn catalogue he would be seen as a very sad case indeed?

 

[aerosolben]

You are assuming that because the devices are worn on the ankles, they only stimulate the ankles.

These devices put a weak electric current through the body. If the gizmo on your left ankle is "+" (or A.C. "hot"), and the gizmo on your right ankle is "-" (or A.C. "neutral"), then the electric current will flow up one leg, through your groin area, and down the other leg.

Thus it may stimulate not only the two ankles, but everything between them.

Interesting idea. In that case, it certainly would be direct stimulation. Is there something in the article (or elsewhere) that suggests this is the case? I didn't see it, and I would have thought that the rubber coating on the footpads would prevent it.

 

[aerosolben]

Why is it that in today's society it is perfectly acceptable and normal for women to use vibrators yet if a man was to admit he regularly had sex with a fake vagina he ordered from a mail order porn catalogue he would be seen as a very sad case indeed?

Your comparison is balanced on the wrong aspect. It's a matter of popularity of the technique, rather than the mechanism of the technique. For example, no one would look down on a man simply for masturbating, in the same way that no one would look down on a woman for using a dildo (the woman might even be looked down on more). On the other hand, those people who look down on a man for using a fake vagina would probably look down on a woman who used a more obscure device for stimulation.

 

[UKBoy1977]

I disagree. Masturbation is accepted in both sexes using the hand. OK. But it is generally accepted for a woman to use a pretend penis to do this, but not for a man to use a pretend vagina. I think this opinion is very common, I even hold it myself. Vibrator? Normal. Fake vagina? Sad bastard!

Why has this double standard arisen?

 

[BTox]

Going off on a tangent here but can anyone explain the following?

Why is it that in today's society it is perfectly acceptable and normal for women to use vibrators yet if a man was to admit he regularly had sex with a fake vagina he ordered from a mail order porn catalogue he would be seen as a very sad case indeed?

So how long have you been having sex with a fake vagina?