I suspect that this is just a defense mechanism.
No, it just gets old. A little rhetoric is fine but have
something substantive to say. Hell, I engage in rhetoric but I rarely make it my entire post and I don't attack people who are simply asking questions. I did nothing to warrant your abuse.
Yes. But you aren't the Republican party. I'm sure its leadership sees things differently.
You were responding to my question, so, who cares how
they see things? Screw them if they can't take a joke. It's our nation not theirs. When we get sick of the Democrat scandals and tricks we will get rid of them also. Hopefully it will be something better than body fluids on a blue dress though.
I've concluded that from the fact the small government conservatives never seem to manage to reduce the size of government, in the same way that Marxists never quite establish the dictatorship of the proletariat.
Fine, whatever. I think A.) The Democrats have successfully demagogued the issue and B.) Most politicians like to pass out money.
So you find links between Marxists and Conservatives. I'm unimpressed. Liberals couldn't pass welfare reform. Clinton did it with the help of Republicans. I don't buy the poor attempt at finding correlation but I give you HUGE marks for avoiding the Nazi correlation. I think you could have much better links with nationalism and suppression of rights etc., but Godwin, damn him, has got your tongue.
In fact, they both excel at making things worse for the people they're trying to help. Maybe that's just because they make poor tactical choices about who to back, or maybe it's because they have some seriously wrong ideas about human nature.
You are simply claiming that Republicans excel at making things worse for people. I find this intellectually lazy and it just reveals your bias. Who is the arbiter of what is "worse" for the people? You? Do you expect everyone to just agree with you? Just because you claim something doesn't make it true. This is why politics is often just..., how did you put it? "Noise".
Everyone simply asserts opinion as if it were fact. God forbid you make valid argument. I don't care if you spout opinion, just understand your arrogance isn't enough to cause me to accept it.
If I claim that liberals excel at making things worse for the people and therefore they are like Marxists will you simply accept my presumptuous claim? Should anyone? Hell no. So why should I accept yours?
No. You've graced us with your opinion.
It does amount to an systematic problem for the Republican party, as there's nothing more to the Republican party than a coalition of political factions.
Ever it was thus. Ever it will be. It is true for both Republicans and Democrats. America primarily only has two parties. We don't build coalitions of many parties so the parties must be a coalition of political factions. It is impossible for two parties to truly serve the needs of all of their respective constituents. Many Liberal catholics don't like abortion and are not in favor of gay marriage. Most Liberals are tolerant of gays and abortion. Liberal feminists don't like pornography. Most Liberals favor strong first Amendment rights. Blue collar Democrats tend to be "family values" and pro war. I'll let you in on a little secret. (I'm being patronizing and I apologize.) In 1968 a group of protesters demonstrated outside of the Democrat National Convention. 7 were arrested. Some people actually think the divisions in America at the time were split by parties. Not true. This rift was actually between conservative and liberal Democrats and it was severe and it was also lengthy.
I do not see that as a systemic problem that has anything to do with what Tricky was talking about. This is the natural order of party politics.
In the '60s and '70s the Democrats were finding there way. Carter was put in because Americans found Nixon's behavior abhorrent. Before that Nixon won in a landslide. Regan beat Carter and then beat Mondale in one of the biggest landslides if not the biggest in American history.
To see this as a systemic problem is to fail to understand American politics. Neither the Democratic nor the Republican party exist in a vacuum. They reflect Americans. American sentiment is like a big pendulum that constantly sweeps from one extreme to another (admittedly extreme by American standards) as it evolves. Over time American sentiment came to reject, to a large degree, segregation, misogyny & paternalistic attitudes, etc., as it moved back and forth between these extremes. In many ways we get better as we lurch about. Some ways worse but that IS Democracy.
And the Republican party can't have inherent problems, because there's no essential component of their coalition...
I was not speaking of the Republican party when I mentioned inherent problems. I asked if there was "something inherently wrong with Republicans?". There is a difference.
At least we both agree that this is a good thing.
Yes, but for different reasons. I see that America is what it is because of and not in-spite of both parties. Democracy is a very good thing. Sadly it is not perfect.
