No more Roe v. Wade

TragicMonkey said:
Running through a great deal of the anti-abortion movement is an undercurrent of an anti-sex movement. How much of the fuss is completely about abortion, and how much is about the sexual freedom that abortion potentially allows? In the past, getting knocked up meant stopping having casual sex, giving up the wild life, and settling down with the guy and becoming "normal", "decent", "traditional" people. Abortion is a way out of that. What was the end of the wild life for our grandparents' generation can be just a delay for a medical procedure today.

I'm not saying everyone who holds anti-abortion views is necessarily anti-sex, but I would be willing to venture that if you scratch the most militant activists you'll find people who disapprove of pre-marital sex, contraception, and the swinging single life, and possibly quite a bit of chauvinistic attitudes about women and men and how they ought to act.

Abortion is a concrete example of medical science and technology taking what used to be up to God, chance, or nature and putting control back into human hands. Whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, it is a big thing, and some people will always be uncomfortable with that.
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In my case, you'd be waaaaay off. I think I said at the top of this topic that overturning Roe v. Wade would have little impact on the number of abortions performed in America.

I just quoted this study in another topic. It shows that 54 percent of pregnancies resulting in abortion were by women who used a contraceptive. But only 17 percent used them properly. The other 46 percent used no contraception at all! None! Zip!

So what does the obvious solution appear to be with regard to unwanted pregnancies?
 
Luke T. said:
In my case, you'd be waaaaay off. I think I said at the top of this topic that overturning Roe v. Wade would have little impact on the number of abortions performed in America.
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Yeah, but Luke, you're one of the rational people. After all, you're here at the JREF messageboard, right?

I just quoted this study in another topic. It shows that 54 percent of pregnancies resulting in abortion were by women who used a contraceptive. But only 17 percent used them properly. The other 46 percent used no contraception at all! None! Zip!
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I read a news article a few months ago that said Spain had a very high abortion rate, while having a very low use of birth control. Apparently people were Catholic enough to avoid birth control, but when the consequences got too much to bear, lapsed long enough to go for an abortion. Which seems a lot worse than just using birth control, from a Catholic standpoint.

So what does the obvious solution appear to be with regard to unwanted pregnancies?
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Lol. I couldn't agree more. I think part of the problem is the lack of education. Sex ed in US public schools is laughable. Even if you're lucky enough to attend a school that actually discusses the mechanics of sex and the importance of contraception and condoms, they don't tell you how to actually go about it. And I don't know about other people's parents, but mine sure as hell were no use when it came to talking about sex. My mother ordered a pamphlet from Ann Landers to educate my sister, and I'm still waiting for a talk with Dad.

And I'm appalled by the sheer number of people who don't know, in this age of HIV, how to use a condom properly. You'd think that would be important enough to learn before having sex. People don't know how to put them on, not to keep them in their wallets, to check the expiration date, to use water-based lube and not oil-based, to not open them with their teeth, etc. Watch enough television and movies and you'll see that sinful Hollywood, the credited source of lustful iniquity, is full of people who still don't know how to use a damn condom properly.

Ignorance can kill, I'm afraid.
 
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