NIST Wind Driven Fire Studies

[A W Smith]

When pointing out the truther examples posted above this post.

It is a test conducted on a 7 storey building with a wind of 20mph added.

It has NOTHING to do with 911 whatsoever.

vinniem invokes the old special pleading logical, fallacy.

http://www.don-lindsay-archive.org/skeptic/arguments.html#special

 

[leftysergeant]

I thought as much. Yeah the Kader toy factory often gets an airing when they are desperate.

So you rule out Kader as evidence. Okay, we can also rule out idiot boy Gage's crap with the cardboard boxes and Heiwa's stacked trays and all the other ethyl-induced models that you lot have been using, right?

 

[1stClassAlan]

Ok, I am dense. please spell it out to me.

Ah! But it wouldn't be so bad if you were !

I believe that you and others of your ilk are far from thick or dense but choose to use what understanding you may possess in pursuit of vindictive complaint - quite why remains debatable.

 

[dafydd]

No hugs from Daddy last night Bill? Had to come here for attention?

That's the way to respond to Bill.Keep it up.

 

[Alferd_Packer]

About 20 years ago, I worked on a project to reline the internal smoke stack of a 40 story high rise building. The boilers were shut down and we had access to he stack at the base, at the 21st floor and at the roof. A couple of things I remember:

1--It was always windy on the roof. Materials and equipment had to be secured at all times.

2—Even with a cold stack, the stack effect was quite significant.

Hot gasses, of course would only increase the stack effect.

How does this apply to 9/11? A note from one of the above reports:

Changes in the building’s ventilation, such as the opening of doors or windows can increase the growth of the fire and allow it to spread beyond the room of fire origin. This can also increase the spread of fire gases through the building.

 

[1stClassAlan]

About 20 years ago, I worked on a project to reline the internal smoke stack of a 40 story high rise building. The boilers were shut down and we had access to he stack at the base, at the 21st floor and at the roof. A couple of things I remember:

1--It was always windy on the roof. Materials and equipment had to be secured at all times.

2—Even with a cold stack, the stack effect was quite significant.

Hot gasses, of course would only increase the stack effect.

How does this apply to 9/11? A note from one of the above reports:

Absolutely! Even on a calm day there is a noticeable updraught in quite small chimneys - I too have relined retort stacks over here in the U.K. and can well remember the blast of uplifted oil soot that occurred a few seconds after anything was dropped into the void - we all went home looking like coalminers!

 

[BasqueArch]

ElMondo,

Yes, In my opinion, it would, But, not so rough. It's actually very simmilar in my opinion. I have only briefly scanned the report, and will spend the weekend reading them. I hadn't seen these, so they are certainly facinating.

Of course, a fire the size that we saw on 9/11, it creates its own stack effect so to speak. It also exaggerates the normal stack effect present in the towers.

But, at that altitude, the winds alone will help to fan the fires. Couple that with the stack effect normally present, and its a raging inferno of hell.

Tri
Also, the outer wall and floors damage/holes to the three buildings breached the fire separation compartments between floors and the fires spread to multiple floors simultaneously. The open floors fires were then exposed and fanned by the wind.

 

[switchpoint]

There is none vinniem. It's sort of how they try to keep comparing the WTC to things like toy factories and highway bridge collapses. You see, there is no comparison. None ever in the history of the world.

It is so refreshing to hear that from a truther. But what do you want to bet withing two or three posts he reverts to calling 9/11 an "anamoly" because no skyscraper ever collapse due to fires.

 

[Edx]

It is so refreshing to hear that from a truther. But what do you want to bet withing two or three posts he reverts to calling 9/11 an "anamoly" because no skyscraper ever collapse due to fires.

And then starts comparing the WTC to buildings like the Windsor tower or One Meridian Plaza.