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New research paper published by Dr. Fetzer

Which is the best article?

  • Dr. Fetzer's research paper

    Votes: 1 25.0%
  • Dick Eastman's article

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Rolf Lindgren's article within an article

    Votes: 3 75.0%
  • all three make good points

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    4

Galileo

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This looks like a groundbreaking paper that will ruffle a few feathers:

What Didn't Happen at the Pentagon?
http://api.ning.com/files/hHUg2B7Ot...qZHhcd5pdsh8/whatdidnthappenatthepentagon.pdf

In “More On What Really Happened at the Pentagon” (30 May 2009),
not only does Dick Eastman not spell out what he takes my position
or that of others to be but it is difficult to figure out what his own take
on what happened at the Pentagon is supposed to be. His essay is
not a model of clarity of exposition. It is very weak in structure and in
reasoning. If I were grading it, I'd mark it a generous "C-". He also
provides a highly biased and inaccurate history of Scholars for 9/11
Truth. For years, a report of what happened involving Steve Jones
and me has been archived on 911scholars.org at “Founder’s Corner".

So much of what he is saying here is mistaken even though he could
have consulted the history that I find his lack of research inexcusable.

If anyone wanted to know my take on the Pentagon, they could find it
in "Thinking about 'Conspiracy Theories': 9/11 and JFK", where the
reasons why I believe no 757 hit the Pentagon but a smaller plane,
such as an A-3 Skywarrior, apparently did. My purpose here is not to
defend that hypothesis, however, but to explain how we know what
didn’t happen at the Pentagon and to refute the unfounded criticisms
that Eastman has published here. One of his more bizarre complaints
is that “Fetzer treats all theories as equally good and offered not (sic)
methodological criteria for discrimination among theories”. No one
who has read the first few sections of this paper—which discusses
the nature of theories and their testability employing measures of
likelihood and probability—would make that claim. He does not
appear to have exerted any effort at all to determine my actual views.

This is at least as perverse as my friend Rolf Lindgren’s complaint
that I am a “9/11 activist” rather than a “9/11 researcher and scholar”.

He acknowledges that I have academic qualifications—which include
28 books and around 150 articles and reviews, the majority in peerreviewed
journals—but has his own conception of what is involved in
9/11 research. As a point of clarification, I have explained to him,
with no apparent affect, that my research is devoted both to noncontroversial
aspects of 9/11—see, for example, “Why doubt 9/11?”
—and to the controversial questions, such as how the WTC was
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destroyed and whether there was video fakery on 9/11, which are not
resolved by prior research. The books he cites are not “the last word”.

James H. Fetzer's Blog
http://911aletheia.ning.com/profiles/blog/list?user=140ddh87ln6fb

Dr. Fetzer's research paper was a response to this:

9-11 - More On What Really
Happened At The Pentagon

By Dick Eastman
5-30-9

http://www.rense.com/general86/911.htm

Ardeshir Mehta and Peter Wakefield Sault have been discussing the Pentagon witness testimony and the damage path left by the killer jet. Craig Ranke is another investigator who has interviewed new witnesses years after I drew my conclusions and they have corroborated the account of of Lagasse that agrees with the statement of witness Steve Riskus and several others. Ardeshir and Peter are old friends. Ranke did his work without any contact with me -- and reached the same conclusion with a different set of witnesses, witnesses that were unknown to me.

Here is a refresher on some of what has been known and reported by honest investigators since 2002.

Isn't all scientific replication, blind replication where someone else performs the same operations to ascertain whether the same result can be obtained.

Two items follow:

(1) Scholarship of Fetzer by Rolf Lindgren

(2) Eastman looks at Joel Sucherman


Scholarship Failures of Dr. James Fetzer

Fetzer is a 9/11 Activist, not a 9/11 Scholar or Expert

by Rolf Lindgren

This looks like another Fetzer instant classic!

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This thread is a good place for a cat picture. I miss those days.
 
Wow I stop reading the drivel from 9/11 truther movement for over a year and come back and find the same old, well, drivel. :rolleyes:

It's like watching a soap opera, you can stop watching for 5 years and when you come back you can follow it right along, plot is still the same.

Um, not that I ah, watch soap operas....
 
you're not gonna let Fetzer win the poll, I hope.

:confused:

Just not giving you the satisfaction of sucking me into a multi-paged "debate", and hoping others do the same.

You have a super day, though.
 
Ok, but if we get corruption and low voter turnout, please do not come crying to me.

If you do not vote, you forfeit your right to complain.

:jaw-dropp

You didn't give us the ability to have a write in vote. So it's not a traditional vote that would allow us to vote our hearts and minds. There isn't a "none of the above" option or a space for a write in.
 
Ok, but if we get corruption and low voter turnout, please do not come crying to me.

If you do not vote, you forfeit your right to complain.

:jaw-dropp

Your choice of options in the poll have been intentionally limited by your deceitful and lying little self.
This isnt surprising.
Try again.
 
You didn't give us the ability to have a write in vote. So it's not a traditional vote that would allow us to vote our hearts and minds. There isn't a "none of the above" option or a space for a write in.

voting is not always fair. 200 years ago, women, blacks, and non-property owning white males were not allowed to vote.

300 years ago, no one was allowed to vote.

When you do get a chance, it is a precious thing.

:cool:
 
voting is not always fair. 200 years ago, women, blacks, and non-property owning white males were not allowed to vote.

300 years ago, no one was allowed to vote.

When you do get a chance, it is a precious thing.

:cool:

Or I can rebel and dump Fetzers luggage in Boston Harbor.
 
This looks like a groundbreaking paper that will ruffle a few feathers:

What Didn't Happen at the Pentagon?
http://api.ning.com/files/hHUg2B7Ot...qZHhcd5pdsh8/whatdidnthappenatthepentagon.pdf



James H. Fetzer's Blog
http://911aletheia.ning.com/profiles/blog/list?user=140ddh87ln6fb

Dr. Fetzer's research paper was a response to this:

9-11 - More On What Really
Happened At The Pentagon

By Dick Eastman
5-30-9

http://www.rense.com/general86/911.htm





This looks like another Fetzer instant classic!

:shocked::k:

No poll on this forum is valid without a planet X option.
 

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