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Whenever you get the idea that the fantasist villains can't possibly sink lower, they produce something like this:

http://www.911blogger.com/node/5327#comment-104059


Besides Todd Beamer not being listed in The Social Security Death Index there is also no listing of his marriage either!
http://ssdi.genealogy.rootsweb.com/
Todd Beamer's marriage:
I prepared for our wedding on May 14,1994. I had
always wanted to move back East,
... Our wedding took place at the First Baptist Church
in Peekskill, New York
(pg 97 "Let's Roll" by Lisa Beamer)
Do a marriage license search at:
http://www.genlookups.com/ny_marriages/
There are no marriage license records for Todd Beamer
and Lisa Brosious!
David Beamer is Todd Beamer's father who has connections to the Pentagon.

(The poster is--surprise!--"anonymous")
 
Like I said Ron, you seem to find the most outrageous, deplorable loons. Do they follow you or are you in active persuit of them.

The above is, as you have said, lower than pissing on the graves of the victims. I only hope none of Tod Beamer's friends of family read it there or here, at what must already be a hard time of year for them.

TAM
 
Did someone point out that not all people are listed in the SSDI?

From the Rootsweb site: http://www.rootsweb.com/~rwguide/lesson10.htm

As marvelous a finding aid as it is, the SSDI does not include the names of everyone, even if they had a Social Security number (SNN). If relatives or the funeral home did not report the death to the Social Security Administration, or if the individual died before 1962 (when the records were computerized) then they probably will not appear in this database. The omission of an individual in this index does not indicate the person is still living. It simply means that there was no report of the person's death to Social Security Administration.
 
Aren't these the same people that complain that the government keeps too close a watch on private citizens?
 
If relatives or the funeral home did not report the death to the Social Security Administration
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it shoudl be noted this almsot never happens unless the deceased was collecting social security benefits at the time of their death


in fact, i read somewhere else that the SSDI just looks to see who stopped recienving a check, and based on that assumes they died (hence anyone not collecting a check would never even have a chance to be listed)

Aren't these the same people that complain that the government keeps too close a watch on private citizens?
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yes, so naturally theres no excuse for the government to get death records wrong, lol
 
Those morons are too stupid to realize that only persons who were collecting Social Security are in the Death Index (which is not a perfect record anyway). At age 32, I doubt Todd Beamer was collecting Social Security.

As for that marriage license site - bogus. I put in my parents marriage, my sister's marriage and two friends marriages (all performed in New York State) and guess what, none came up.

Gosh I wish I owned a bridge somewhere in Brooklyn I could sell these fools.
 
i went to the link on the marriage site for "rootsweb" massive marriage database, and entered George Bush for any state...your current presidents marriage was not there.

TAM
 
T.A.M. said:
i went to the link on the marriage site for "rootsweb" massive marriage database, and entered George Bush for any state...your current presidents marriage was not there.

TAM
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Well THAT I kinda believe, that Laura Bush was kidnapped into it, who would have married HIM of their own volition?
 
I can't really find anything about the SSDI being only for those receiving Social Security benefits, but I did find this:

Lorretto Dennis Szucs and Sandra Hargraves Luebking report in The Source: A Guidebook of American Genealogy (1997) that the total number of deaths in the United States from 1962 to September 1991 is estimated at 58.2 million. Of that number, 42.5 million (73 percent) are found in the Death Master File. Other research published by the Social Secrurity Administration in 2002 suggests that for most years since 1973, 93 percent to 96 percent of deaths of individuals aged 65 or older were included in the DMF. Today the number of deaths, at any age, reported to the Death Master File is around 95 percent.
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en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Master_File
 
here is a conspiracy for you.

Go to the rootsweb site listed in the OP. go to the death index and look up Todd Beamer. Only one shows up, and he was born when do you think (September 11th 1968). The Tod Beamer of Flight 93, was born in 1968...Co-incidence...YES!!!!
 
I think you have to have 40 quarters (10 years) of contributions to Social Security before you can draw any benefits. Todd Beamer might not have been eligible.

Even if he was, the SS death benefit is a whopping $255.
 
In case some CT nut flies off with the above, thinking it really is a conspiracy, here is what the SSDI has said about why someone might not show up in their index:

The SSDI does not include death records for everyone who has been issued a Social Security Number (card). Common reasons for exclusion include the following:

* The death was not reported to the Social Security Administration (SSA).
* The death occurred before the Death Master File was maintained in a computer database. About 98 percent of the deaths in this database occurred between 1962 and the present.
* The person did not participate in the Social Security program.
* Survivor death benefits were (are) being paid to dependents or spouse.
* A recent death may not be indexed yet.
* Human error. (Before you give up, read the section titled "Missing Entries in the SSDI.")
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Bolding mine

TAM:)
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Race car driver Dale Earnhardt (age 49) also died in 2001. He's not in the Social Security Death Index either. I guess that means he never lived either and the thousands who saw his death live are all part of a big conspiracy.

You know who is on there though? My father, who is dead and guess what? He was collecting Social Security!
 
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You know who is on there though? My father, who is dead and guess what? He was collecting Social Security!
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my grandfather (fathers father) was collecting SS when he died, hes in the index

my other grandfather (mothers father) worked until the day he died and never collected SS, hes not in the index
 
okay, so simply find one of the passengers from one of the flights who should have been recieving SS and put them in the index (if one is so inclined).

Basically, in a nutshell, the site is useless in terms of the purposes they were using it for.


TAM
 
T.A.M. said:
okay, so simply find one of the passengers from one of the flights who should have been recieving SS and put them in the index (if one is so inclined).

Basically, in a nutshell, the site is useless in terms of the purposes they were using it for.


TAM
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Hilda Marcin, 79, Budd Lake, New Jersey. Victim from flight 93.
http://www.september11victims.com/september11victims/victims_list.htm

HILDA MARCIN - 11 Dec 1921 - 11 Sep 2001
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And yes, I hate myself for having to proof this :mad:
 
The SSDI also does not record deaths if the person's spouse or dependents are collecting survivor benefits, as Todd Beamer's wife and kids are.

ETA: Okay, TAM got this already.
 
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